Digital BW, The Print

The "EZ" inkset I made was for the C82, not the C84.  I have never seen how
the C82 inks work in the C84, so I can't really comment.  I'll recommend MIS
loan me a C84 if they want me to see what is going on and what inkset
modifications might be needed for it.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
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-----Original Message-----
From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@...] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:03 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] new UT EZ inks for C84 printers


Hi all.... in addition to printing on an R800 I've been trying out the UT EZ
inks on a 
C84.  As Paul has outlined, there is no procedure to following, really, with
this inkset.  
However, I haven't really gotten satisfactory results yet, using a Mac on OS
X.

I printed the 21 step file with a Source Space of Gray Gamma 1.8, a Printer
Space of 
Same As Source.  Matte Paper - Heavyweight, is the media type and No Color 
Management is selected.

I have tried this with PR 308 and EEM, and also with media types that might 
conceivably require less ink.  On EEM, the 21 step file shows the same
density for 85-
85, thought 80 and 100 are distinct from that range.

Isn't this supposed to be EZ :-)

Ed Rudolph


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> The "EZ" C82/84 inks assume no profiles or anything.  That is, they were
> aimed at novices who would not do anything to their systems.  So, I'd use
> "same as source" with a file that has not embedded profile.
> 
> The "warm" is un-toned carbon.  If you want a tone between neutral and
> carbon, you can, for example, stick a warm cart in the yellow position.
If
> you do this you must use a grayscale file to print from.
> 
> The C82 worked best with EEM and PhotoRag because of the good dmax these
> papers have.  A "problem" with the C82 was that it under-printed the 100%
> black with some color inkset.  This made for smoother transitions but
> lowered the dmax.  Whether this is still true with the C84 is unknown.
> Someone sent me a dmax reading that may indicate the C84 has a better
dmax.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> ______________________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@p...] 
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:16 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] new UT EZ inks for C84 printers
> 
> Hi all, I've just ordered a set of the EZ B&W UT inks to use with an Epson
> C84 printer 
> that I got for free when I bought a computer recently.  Here is the info
> from the MIS 
> website:
> 
> "There are 2 inksets for the Epson C82 (&C84) , a warm set (EZW) and a
> neutral set 
> (EZN).  Both make beautiful prints with out  any workflow whatsoever.
This
> means 
> that all you have to do is install the cartridges in the printer and
print.
> There are no 
> adjustments required, no curves to fuss with, and any software that can
> print an 
> image can be used. The images can be in color or grayscale, it does not
> matter.  Of 
> course you will need some fine art paper and you have to print in the Best
> Photo 
> mode with no color adjustment.  It is Easy to make great looking B&W
> archival quality 
> prints.  Matte and glossy prints can be created by selecting either an
Eboni
> black 
> cartridge, for matte prints, or the Photo Black cartridge for glossy
prints.
> The 
> Ultratone CMY cartridges work on both types of media. The inks were
> optimized for 
> Hahnamuhle Photo Rag paper.  Other papers may produce different results."
> 
> My questions:  what Proof Setup, if any, would you use in PS7 or CS?
Would
> you send 
> the images to the printer with the Printer Space set to Same As Source?
> 
> Thanks for any info
> Ed 
> 
> 
> 
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