Digital BW, The Print

Thanks very much, Paul!  This morning I wrote an email to Robert Zeiss, similar to the 
one I posted on the list here.  I'll let you know if he replies.

Ed

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> The "EZ" inkset I made was for the C82, not the C84.  I have never seen how
> the C82 inks work in the C84, so I can't really comment.  I'll recommend MIS
> loan me a C84 if they want me to see what is going on and what inkset
> modifications might be needed for it.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
> ____________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@p...] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] new UT EZ inks for C84 printers
> 
> 
> Hi all.... in addition to printing on an R800 I've been trying out the UT EZ
> inks on a 
> C84.  As Paul has outlined, there is no procedure to following, really, with
> this inkset.  
> However, I haven't really gotten satisfactory results yet, using a Mac on OS
> X.
> 
> I printed the 21 step file with a Source Space of Gray Gamma 1.8, a Printer
> Space of 
> Same As Source.  Matte Paper - Heavyweight, is the media type and No Color 
> Management is selected.
> 
> I have tried this with PR 308 and EEM, and also with media types that might 
> conceivably require less ink.  On EEM, the 21 step file shows the same
> density for 85-
> 85, thought 80 and 100 are distinct from that range.
> 
> Isn't this supposed to be EZ :-)
> 
> Ed Rudolph
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Ed,
> > 
> > The "EZ" C82/84 inks assume no profiles or anything.  That is, they were
> > aimed at novices who would not do anything to their systems.  So, I'd use
> > "same as source" with a file that has not embedded profile.
> > 
> > The "warm" is un-toned carbon.  If you want a tone between neutral and
> > carbon, you can, for example, stick a warm cart in the yellow position.
> If
> > you do this you must use a grayscale file to print from.
> > 
> > The C82 worked best with EEM and PhotoRag because of the good dmax these
> > papers have.  A "problem" with the C82 was that it under-printed the 100%
> > black with some color inkset.  This made for smoother transitions but
> > lowered the dmax.  Whether this is still true with the C84 is unknown.
> > Someone sent me a dmax reading that may indicate the C84 has a better
> dmax.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > 
> > For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
> > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> > ______________________________________
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@p...] 
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:16 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] new UT EZ inks for C84 printers
> > 
> > Hi all, I've just ordered a set of the EZ B&W UT inks to use with an Epson
> > C84 printer 
> > that I got for free when I bought a computer recently.  Here is the info
> > from the MIS 
> > website:
> > 
> > "There are 2 inksets for the Epson C82 (&C84) , a warm set (EZW) and a
> > neutral set 
> > (EZN).  Both make beautiful prints with out  any workflow whatsoever.
> This
> > means 
> > that all you have to do is install the cartridges in the printer and
> print.
> > There are no 
> > adjustments required, no curves to fuss with, and any software that can
> > print an 
> > image can be used. The images can be in color or grayscale, it does not
> > matter.  Of 
> > course you will need some fine art paper and you have to print in the Best
> > Photo 
> > mode with no color adjustment.  It is Easy to make great looking B&W
> > archival quality 
> > prints.  Matte and glossy prints can be created by selecting either an
> Eboni
> > black 
> > cartridge, for matte prints, or the Photo Black cartridge for glossy
> prints.
> > The 
> > Ultratone CMY cartridges work on both types of media. The inks were
> > optimized for 
> > Hahnamuhle Photo Rag paper.  Other papers may produce different results."
> > 
> > My questions:  what Proof Setup, if any, would you use in PS7 or CS?
> Would
> > you send 
> > the images to the printer with the Printer Space set to Same As Source?
> > 
> > Thanks for any info
> > Ed 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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