In fact, one paper that Steadman loves doesn't have calcium carbonate anywhere in sight. Robert On 10/14/01 8:49 PM, "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...> wrote: > Steadman, > > Just a couple of comments. I think that the receiver coatings on the > inkjet papers are more than just calcium carbonate (I think this is > added in the paper itself as the pH buffer) and involve organic > components which ultimately may be the weakest link in the chain. > > Second, the goal in fresco is to wind up with the pigments sealed in > the substrate under a coating. Which comes back to the idea of > coating for maximum longevity. > > Martin > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" > <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote: >> Greetings Digital Printmakers. (cross posted) >> >> There has been much discussion on this forum about the interactions > of inks, pigments and paper coatings (which are usually a form of > calcium carbonate). While responding to another forum post on the > issue of color pigments interacting with the substrate, my old fuzzy > brain cells synapsed with a spark that flashed to old Michelangelo > and his problems with his fresco work in the Sistine Chapel. >> >> I am posting this excerpt below in the hope that you will gain some > smile from knowing that artists (and a master like Michelangelo) > struggled with the media of their times, struggled with longevity > issues, struggled with pigments and substrates, etc... Read the last > few lines about fresco secco. >> >> Perhaps this post will encourage you to "not give up" and remember > that lowly pigments and calcium can last a long time. And just think > what Michelangelo would be doing with an Inkjet! >> >> Regards to all, >> >> Steadman >> >> The following is copied from the Encarta Encyclopedia on the Web: >> >> Pigment is applied to the top layer of several layers of plaster > for a buon fresco. The painter usually applies to the next-to-last > plaster surface a sketch, or cartoon, of the painting. >> >> Advertisement >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The outlines of the various figures and forms of the cartoon are > then reinforced with dark watercolor. Plaster is laid over the > drawing in small sections, and color is applied to the wet plaster, > often aided by another sketch of the color scheme. As the plaster > dries, the lime in the plaster reacts chemically with the carbon > dioxide in the air to form calcium carbonate; this compound forms a > film over the colors, which binds them to the plaster. This makes > them part of its actual surface and also gives the colors an unusual > clarity. The colors of a fresco are usually thin, transparent, and > light, often with a chalky look. In the Renaissance, methods were > found to give the colors somewhat more opacity. >> >> In buon fresco, the painting must be done quickly and confined to > essentials. The artist must know precisely how much watercolor the > plaster will absorb. Too much paint causes the surface to > become "rotten." Cutting away the defective portion, laying on fresh > plaster, and repainting is then necessary. >> >> In fresco secco, the dry plaster is rubbed with pumice stone to > remove the crust, then washed with a thin mixture of water and lime. > The colors are applied on this surface. The effect of fresco secco is > inferior to true fresco; the colors are not as clear, and the > painting is less durable. >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ---------------------- Robert Morrison rmorrison@... 310-397-2704 4131 Bledsoe Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90066
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Age Old Problem: Inks, Pigments, and Coatings
2001-10-15 by Robert Morrison
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