I previously noted, "The Abbey acid test pen makes just as yellow (acidic) marks on the back of the old fiber prints as it does on Epson Enhanced Matte." I have done some further experiments that lead me to believe the fiber paper in silver prints is much better than EEM. I took the old fiber print that tested as acid as well as the EEM test strip and de-acidified them with ammonia gas. After this they both tested alkaline. Starting with no acids, the question was how soon lignin in the paper would produce acids that would show up as yellow with the test pen. The test prints were left hanging in the air to avoid any contact with acidic materials. The EEM started to show yellow (acid) in just a few hours. It has now been a few days, and the fiber print is not showing any yellow. It quickly lost the purple alkaline results, but the color has stayed what I'd call neutral. The test results look just like the highly-respected, pure cotton Arches paper test results. So, I conclude that the paper used in the Kodak fiber-based silver print I tested is very good with very little if any lignin in it. The acids I found probably came from surrounding materials. While not in contact with acidic papers, the fiber prints were in a metal file drawer that also did have some acidic papers in it. The lesson may be to store prints in buffered boxes -- which is the standard recommendations for B&W prints, I believe. I suspect buffered interleaving would also be a good move for B&W (not color, as I understand it). Even acidic papers in the same file drawer may be a source of danger to silver prints. Paul www.PaulRoark.com ___________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 8:32 PM To: DigitalB&WPrint Subject: [Digital BW] Acidic Silver Prints? I just read that the paper used in making traditional photo fiber-based prints is actually purified wood pulp. Lignin in wood is the main reason it has a tendency to become acidic even if no acids were used in processing. Cotton has no lignin, which is the hard substance that allows trees to be tall. Thus cotton - almost pure cellulose - is considered a much better (but more expensive) base for paper. I've heard that while lignin can be reduced substantially in wood-based papers, it can never be 100% removed. So, for archival wood-based paper, the trick is to reduce the lignin to less than 1% and then have 2% buffer (usually calcium carbonate) in the paper to offset the residual lignin as it breaks down and forms acids. The buffers absorb the acids before they can do any damage to the cellulose. Unfortunately, wet prints that go through an acid stop bath can't have buffers, it appears. (I've heard that a small amount of residual fix left in the print actually helps preserve the print. Is this because it can act as a buffer?) I've also heard that the air &/or airborne gases or pollutants can cause an acidic cascade in even pure cellulose, cotton paper unless it is buffered. So, it occurred to me to test some of my old fiber-based silver prints that had never been mounted. I hate to say it, but the Abbey acid test pen makes just as yellow (acidic) marks on the back of the old fiber prints as it does on Epson Enhanced Matte. (Most of my silver prints are mounted on buffered mat board. Hopefully the buffered mount board is helping to absorb some of the acids. I'm going to be looking for buffered interleaving sheets for the rest.) I wonder if an EEM print with a buffer sprayed on the back or mounted on buffered board would last as long as an Ansel Adams print? It now seems like a much closer question than I would have guessed. 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RE: [Digital BW] Acidic Silver Prints? -- Update
2004-03-09 by Paul Roark
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