>Where can I buy the Grumbacher B77 in Europe? It may be a U.S. company; art supply stores is where it is handled in the U.S. In Europe Lascaux Fixativ may be more available and perhaps cheaper than in the U.S., where it is a bit overpriced. It appears to be B72 and has worked well for me on matte papers. Paul www.PaulRoark.com _____________________________ --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > >...should I use Lyson Print Guard on papers like hahnemuhle William > >Turner or Luminos Museum Parchment or Legion Somerset > >enhanced? > > Print Guard appears to be the same as PremierArt Print Shield, which has > been tested by Wilhelm. See > http://www.wilhelm-research.com/pdf/WIR_Ep9600_2003_11_01.pdf > Some of the papers were sprayed with PremeirArt, and it appeared to help the > lightfastness and not affect the paper life estimate to the extent of the > testing (to >200 years). > > >What is the long term effect of Print guard. Does it eventually > >crack or discolor. > > These companies are not disclosing what the products are. Solvent based > acrylics have the best reputations for not yellowing, and I assume that is > what these are. My past research led me to Rohm & Haas's B72 formula as the > most trusted by conservators. Grumbacher Tuffilm is apparently the same > thing and readily available at art stores. > > See the statements of Ross Merrill, Chief of Conservation at the National > Gallery of Art, Washington D.C. (USA), below. In a 1997 speech regarding > pastel conservation he said as follows regarding fixatives (which these > are): > > "Today there are a number of alternatives. Krylon Acrylic Varnish B72 is > used by conservators. [Krylon no longer makes this, Lascaux Fixativ is the > only true Rohm & Haas B72 that I know of.] This product will remain > unchanged for 400 years, but does have a tendency to saturate the surface. > Grumbacher B77 varnish or "tough film" is the same as B72, but will not > saturate..." See <http://www.bmi.net/knapp/iapsmerrill.html> > > I prefer the Lyson or PremierArt for glossy prints because it is easier to > get an even spray. For matte prints the Grumbacher or Lascaux has worked > fine. Grumbacher is probably the cheapest and most readily available of the > products. I think it has been used by pastel painters for many years. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] effect of Print Guard on watercolor papers
2004-03-23 by Paul Roark
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