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Re: The quality of the BO print: scanning and my workflow success.

2004-04-07 by Joe

Steve would you care to share what paper you are using?  Thanks

Joe




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "spersky123" 
<spersky@s...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Don M 
<don@m...> 
> wrote:
> > Enjoyable post.
> > Would you mind saying what other methods or materials you have 
used 
> that 
> > did not do as well as this?
> 
> I have used Digital Capture with D100 and conversions to greyscale 
> in  photoshop with silver oxide filters.  That was not nessecarily 
a 
> bad thing just not the post processing I wanted to do.  I wanted 
to 
> do true Black and White, and I could tell the difference in my 
work.
> 
> Canon i9000 printer with regular Canon ink black only.  That IMHO 
> made good Black and White.  Nothing to really hang on the wall and 
be 
> proud of, and there was not enough tonal gradation, and the photo 
> looked store processed.  It was not like a custom print.
> 
> Old HP printer with full color inks.  Just horrible.
> 
> Current Epson 2200 with photo black ink.  Horrible too much 
bronzing.
> 
> 
>  
> > Do you have a guess as to what part of the system is mostly 
> responsible for 
> > your success?   Or is it all the little things put together?
> > 
> > -Don M
> 
> 
> I am now making the best possible negative for 35mm with fp4+ I 
have 
> ever produced.  The Leica M system is truly a large leap in 
quality 
> from my Nikon System (Nikon lover dont flame me).  Combine that 
with 
> a great film like fp4+, and that helps a lot.  That is subjective, 
> but the picture have a quality that just jumps off the page with 
> minimal grain and great contrast and resolution even at 13x19 
> prints.  I think that may be a key part of the quality difference.
> 
> The Epson 2200 is the best printer I have ever had and the 2880 
DPI 
> print resolution plays a huge part in the fact that the image is 
less 
> pixelated then my previous print jobs on my old printers.  I think 
> this may be important with Black only printing.
> 
> Despite all of the above,  the ink recommendation made the 
> difference.  None of my black only prints, or black and white 
prints 
> with full color inks have come close to what simple eboni black 
ink 
> can do, and it is so cheap.
> 
> So I would say it is the combo of everything.  The great negatives 
> help, the printer seems to work great but my other comparisons 
where 
> not in the same class as the Epson 2200, and of course the ink is 
key.
> 
> As for the way I process the Negatives, I am not sure how much 
that 
> matters especially with the way I scan the negatives. Even dense 
> negative have all the information you need from the raw CCD output.
> 
> If you are interested in an 8x10 print of what I have been able to 
> accomplish with this technique send me an e-mail and I will mail 
you 
> the landscape picture I am talking about.  I can mail out a few 
> pictures at least just to share my experience (I hope I dont get 
> flooded with requests).
> 
> Thanks
> Steve

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