Digital BW, The Print

Yeah...I have an opinion on this very subject....

I think the coating idea is a good one for certain effect and certain needs.  

However, I believe (and it is a gut feeling) that it would be better to put most Piezo prints behind UV blocking glass.  I checked tonight and the manufacturer of my glass states 97% UV rays blocked.  I bet that is better than a typical home sprayed on misting of a polymer that has "some" UV agents in it.  

In addition, the glass "encapsulates" the image and protects it from a variety of other detrimental factors....sharp objects, poking fingers, kids with crayons, spaghetti sauce (you never know where those prints go),  hairspray and perfume (again you never know)..etc...

I also think the matte surface of black carbon inks on matte cotton paper is sensual...meaning that you can "feel" surfaces with your eyes...so that skin looks like skin etc...

Finally, by not putting anything on the paper but the carbon ink, I have no fear of "coatings" turning yellow, cracking etc...

Nonetheless, I am still interested in the Morrison Mix (another plug) so that I can have alternative coatings available for alternative presentations.  

Steadman
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Morrison 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Glass vs. Coating


  Just did a quick experiment with several coated prints.  Put the coated and
  non-coated prints behind glass (I'm afraid it was cheap glass) separated
  with a 8 ply Matte.  I can tell instantly which print was coated and which
  was noncoated.  The difference is less striking that without the glass.
  Wow...I hate glass...it really ruins the appearance of the prints...coated
  and noncoated.  I'm so used to cradling the babies in my hands...that it
  seems wrong to hide their true beauty behind the glass.  The problem is that
  although I'd love to show my work without it...I'm not sure I can tell a
  collector not to use it....hmmm...we probably need to do a fade on the
  relative merits of glass vs. coatings.

  If you were able to get equivalent fade from a non-coated print behind glass
  and a coated print with no glass...would you coat and not use glass...or
  would you want to improve the lightfastness by coating and using glass?

  Any opinions?

  Robert

  On 10/15/01 11:03 AM, "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote:

  > Let me get back to you on that one.  I looked at this early on...and the
  > coated prints still looked better...but that was many
  > formulations/papers/application methods ago.  I want to do some double blind
  > evaluation.
  > 
  > Robert
  > 
  > On 10/15/01 10:29 AM, "Todd Flashner" <tflash@...> wrote:
  > 
  >> 
  >>> One of my objectives in the coating project was to achieve the positives of
  >>> glass without the negatives.  Antonis and I have talked about this one at
  >>> length. But the velvety surface of a coated print is definitely no
  >>> more...but honestly I have trouble looking at an uncoated print next to a
  >>> coated one because the coated print is so rich and deep.
  >> 
  >> How do you feel about coating prints that *are* destined to be hung behind
  >> glass? Is it still a worthwhile venture, or does the added dmax go unnoticed
  >> because of the added dmax from the glass, and is the added dmax further
  >> mitigated by yet another glare causing surface? IOW, I understand the
  >> benefits of coating a print for display as opposed to using glass, but if
  >> glass is a given, would you personally still coat the print?
  >> 
  >> Todd
  >> 
  >> 
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