Digital BW, The Print

Hi again, Sandy... well I did try your method, using both Premium Glossy and 
Enhanced Matte papers with the appropriate profiles.  This was a file from a thin 
negative with a small amount of shadow detail.  

I found on the Enhanced Matte that, as you said, using Color printing with Color 
Management from photoshop, that the print was extremely neutral.  Perhaps a tiny bit 
of shadow detail was lost and the blacks were not very deep.  I tried again using PG 
and its profile and found that the grays would transition from yellow in the higher 
end gray to violet-toned deeper grays.  Pretty bad.  So, maybe the Premium Glossy 
Epson profile is no good.

Ed


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" 
<erudolph@p...> wrote:
> Hi Sandy, I have an R800 too and was getting pretty poor results 
> with B&W using the supplied profiles.  Some of my prints almost 
> looked like split-toned prints.  For example, a photo of a 
> skyscraper, where the windows are one value of gray and the 
> exterior building shell another, would show the building as cyan 
> and the windows as yellowish.  This was using the Premium 
> Glossy profile.  I'll try again, using EEM, the EEM profile, 
> Perceptual intent and Black Compensation On.  As of this 
> moment, the best result I've gotten is with Premium Glossy, 
> Printer Color Management, and using Black rather than Color 
> Printing.  This produces a cool to neutral print, with some 
> metamerism.   It should be mentioned that Black Only printing is 
> not possible with the current version of the R800 driver; it 
> definitely uses the colored inks.
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Rudolph
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> "sanfo2003" <SandyCornelius@c...> wrote:
> > >you're talking about using it in full color mode, right?
> > 
> > Yup, using the full color mode and getting neutral prints. The 
> beauty 
> > of using the full color mode is that you can tint however you 
> like. 
> > The fact that neutral prints are possible in the full color mode is 
> > an indication of the accuracy of the profiles provided by Epson. 
> > 
> > If your photo software will not allow color management it will be 
> > difficult to get a neutral print. Fortunately Photoshop is fully 
> > color management capable.