Digital BW, The Print

Actually Adams did document the poor lives of others.  In case some aren't familiar with it the Library of Congress has scans of some great photographs.  Here is an URL for the Ansel Adams photos of Manzanar Relocation center http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/aamhtml/aamhome.html

I am also fond of some hi res tiffs of Walker Evans depression era work and intend to try printing some soon.

Nick


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: flyfishingusa2002 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:45 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Not Ansel


  Clayton,
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you not start this thread? It does 
  not have a lot to do with the forum and is definately off topic.
  You and others consider it "Art" while I and maybe some others who 
  are to nervous to post here because ot the "Flame", do not.
  Well exposed, sharp and details in the shadows, yes, art, no. It is 
  Photo Journalism. Do you consider the pics of our brave men shown on 
  the front cover of the New York Times every day art? I think that 
  this type of pic is disgusting and shows no thought for the relatives 
  of the persons concerned. 
  The site you refer to just shows the poor lives of others, it's 
  journalism and not art. To even mention and compare this to Ansel is 
  just bad form.


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
  <cj@c...> wrote:
  > Hello Sierra,
  > 
  > >...the work on the site to me is not much more than snapshots...
  > >...All who think that it is art should...
  > 
  > First, I never said anything about whether it is "art" or not.  I 
  said
  > it was excellent photography.  What "Art" is is a whole 'nother
  > subject which will probably be debated forever.  By "putting words 
  in
  > my mouth" your remark is taking this thread somewhere it was not 
  meant
  > to go.
  > 
  > Second, if these works are snapshots, then the works of H.C Bresson,
  > Elliot Erwitt and Sebastiao Salgado are also snapshots.  If you 
  think
  > that, then I guess our definitions of "snapshot" are different.  
  > 
  > The man's work is exceptional and I merely wanted to bring it
  > to others' attention here so they could enjoy it.  There was no
  > intention to start a discussion and I'm really disappointed that 
  this
  > has turned onto yet another on-line debate.  Please, _at least_ 
  limit
  > remarks to what was actually said.
  > 
  > We all here love photography, and the occasional OT but related
  > subject enriches the forum experience.  But if every thread turns 
  into
  > a dragged out sniping war that detracts from the forum's main 
  purpose
  > then members will be afraid to talk about anything but clogs and
  > curves.  Please exercise some judgement on these kinds of threads.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > Clayton
  > 
  > 
  > Info on black and white digital printing at    
  > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm



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