I posted a similar question the other week and Ernst Dinkla wrote an insightful reply, quoted below... I've nearly got my 3000 back up and running and am considering a CFS, but came across these extra large cartridges on Ebay > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14303&item=3477072570&rd=1&ssPageName=WD2V > > Does anyone have any experience with these? > > Pros cons, etc, etc...even pure speculation as to possible problems. > > Glenn You can use 9000 carts in the 3000. A guiding tab has to be cut on the cart to get them in a 3000. But all the functions will be there including the hardware triggered empty warning. Refilling with a syringe + 0.8 mm (shortened) needle is quite easy. 220 ml ink, about 190 ml used per charge. That's twice the normal 3000 amount. I have no experience with the carts on the site you mentioned. But checking their images: There will be no hardware triggered empty signal. In the worst case you could run the inkchannel dry. Air has to get into the rigid cart to avoid the creation of a vacuum while printing. Not that much of a problem with pigment inks but not so nice for dyes. The Epson carts have a pouch inside that flattens and no air has to get into the ink container itself. That brings me to what I see as the main disadvantage of that cart, you can't use it till it gets completely empty, half of the cart below the seal where it is connected to the Epson inkline will never be used and while it prints from full to half cart content the ink pressure changes with the ink level. Both issues don't happen with the Epson carts. Refilling might be easier though. If there's a bag in that cart too then most of the problems I sketched are not there. But its transparency doesn't show a bag like that. Ernst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr_Misty_44" <jharvey@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 2:27 AM Subject: [Digital BW] 8 oz Refillable carts > I posted this as well on the epson WideFormat site. > > I'm curious. Has anyone used the Eight oz. refillable see > through > cartridges for the Epson wide format printers sold by > www.Inkmizer.com . If so are they worth it. Do they work well or not. > > John H > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] 8 oz Refillable carts
2004-05-10 by Glenn Barry
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