Bernie, I'm not sure where the lot # is. Since you have a CFS, I'm not sure the problem would apply to you anyway. Yesterday you described the problem as follows: "...in the darker grey zones - like shaded zones of skin - I get a relatively coarse black grain which looks a bit like "snake skin" ..." I have a 1290 on loan here, so I printed a 21-step test file on Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl with the 1290 and UT2 inkset. I used the 1280 UT2 neutral curve that is designed to print on that paper even though Eboni is installed in the printer. The 1290 print looks very much like the 1280 print. With a magnifying hood, I can see the dots. They look about the same as the 1280 dots. I doubt these are what you're referring to, however. I don't have a working 1160 any more, but I'd be very surprised if the 1160 shadows are better. Do others find the 1280 shadow dots with the 1280, UT2, and Ilford Pearl of Epson Semigloss to be a problem? The 1290 print is a bit darker. The photospectrometer readings give me a 50% density of 0.64. This is just slightly darker than my 0.61 target. On the 1280 it's coming in a bit light today at 0.57. The 1290 75% patch reads 1.13, which is darker than the 1.04 of the 1280. The 1290 dmax is 2.32; the 95% comes in at 2.01. This separation could be better, but in good light it's not that far off. On the 1280 the 95% patch is 1.92. The "snake skin" look you describe reminds me more of what I'd expect if the paper were being over-saturated with too much ink. The Ilford Pearl is sensitive to this, which is why we use the "Photo Quality Ink Jet" paper type setting with it. The Epson Premium Semigloss, however, should be able to take the full "Photo Paper" setting ink load. So, bottom line, I don't know what is causing the effect you're seeing. I suspect it is more than the very small dots that are in the UT2 shadows. I would like to hear from others as to whether they think the UT2 is too rough in the shadows. Paul www.PaulRoark.com For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see: http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ ____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Sch. [mailto:albatros-@...] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:42 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dots and More Dots ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Dots and More Dots >Bernie, I think the issues you raised yesterday indicate a problem with your >particular setup or carts. Have you checked to see if the cart is one of >the defective lot? Paul, as I already asked yesterday: Where do I find the lot number? DO I have to take the CFS cart out of the printer, and, is this recommended? From the outside (with the carts in the left position of course) I cant see a number on it. Thanks, Bernie Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] Dots and More Dots
2004-05-22 by Paul Roark
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