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Re: Understanding dots and dots

2004-05-25 by mike_nunan

Hi Roy,

Maybe it is a driver issue between those two. Are you set up to do a 
QTR UT print on the 2200? That would settle it I guess.

Also, what do you think it is about the 1160/VM combination that 
makes it so smooth? VM only has black and three grey shades, same as 
UT, right?

-= mike =-

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" 
<roy@h...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mike_nunan" 
> <mike.nunan@c...> wrote:
> > I'm mainly hoping Roy and Paul can shed some light on this, but 
if 
> > anyone else wants to jump in, please feel free.  I've been 
looking at 
> > Roy's very interesting scans of prints, posted in the 
thread "Dots 
> > and More Dots". I must admit, I'm slightly surprised by the 
> > differences. On my monitor, the images measure 4"x4", so that's a 
16x 
> > enlargement factor relative to the physical print. That means 
that 
> > viewing the screen from 8ft away is like looking at the print 
itself 
> > from 6", which is about as close as I can focus with my naked eye.
> > 
> > What I'm surprised by is the fact that there is such a difference 
in 
> > visible dot between the 2200/UT7 print and the 1270/UT2+1160/VM 
> > prints, especially against the UT2 prints as I thought the inkset 
> > used a very similar set of grey tones to UT7. If anything, I 
would've 
> > expected the 2200 print to be finer due to the smaller drop size, 
but 
> > instead the reverse is true. The difference is clear at an 
effective 
> > 6in viewing distance and still noticeable at 8-12in, so this 
would 
> > definitely be a concern to me in a real print. Any idea what 
gives?
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > -= mike =-
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I was also a little surprised at that difference as well.  I think 
the
> dotsizes of both printers is advertized as 4 picoliter so that 
> shouldn't be a factor.   I don't know if there's any difference in 
the
> densities of the inks in the two sets.  Maybe Paul can address that.
> That pretty much leaves the driver as the only signiicant
> difference.  The 1270 print was done with QTR with curves I made.
> The 2200 print was done using the Epson driver so its a little
> hard to say what ink is used where.  My guess is that it uses one of
> the darker inks (maybe the LK) at a lighter gray.
> 
> Roy

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