Digital BW, The Print

Chris, I've been this road using both imagesetter and inkjet negs for pt/pd.
I don't think either technique is there yet for silver prints.  Pt/pd has a
much greater tonal range than silver developing-out papers.  If you like
that look (who doesn't) you could save yourself a lot of time and trouble by
just getting an 8x10 field camera and a good lens, developing the neg in
Rollo or whatever that is good for you for pt/pd, and making the real deal.
I suggest, before sinking a lot of time in a given approach, that you find a
way to view some pt/pd or silver contact prints from either in-camera negs
or (darkroom) enlarged negs.  I have made silver prints from enlarged negs,
AZO and other silver contact prints from in-camera negs and pt/pd prints
from in-camera and enlarged negs.  For me, the way to go is inkjet.  I am
more interested in the image than the method of reproduction, and I find
inkjet to be adequate to convey what I want to convey.  But each to his own.
Here are some sites you might want to check out:

www.bostick-sullivan.com
www.tommillea.com
www.davidmichaelkennedy.com

David enlarges his 120 film images to 20x24 negs and prints on double-coated
pure palladium paper...you can jump into the images if you see them in
person.  Tom enlarges 35mm negs to 20x24 and prints platinum.  I've gone
through his master print box and it is superb.  Melody at Bostick-Sullivan
will fix you up with everything you need for contact printing if you want to
go this route.

Good luck and have fun.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Hargens [mailto:chargens@...] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:59 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Digital Negatives
> 
> Thanks, Steve, for the info -- even if it is rather 
> discouraging. If I try making some digital negatives I'll be 
> use Pictorico's Photo Gallery High Gloss white film.  
> Burkholder has made his 2200 silver for this film. Is this 
> the one you had in mind? See --- 
> http://www.danburkholder.com/Pages/misc_pages/inkjetneg.htm
> 
> Chris Hargens
>  
> 
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Chris
> Hargens" 
> > <chargens@s...> wrote:
> > > Thanks, Randy and Charles, for your advice. If I go the digital 
> > > negative route, I'll be using my 2200 to make them. According to 
> > > Burkholder the 2200, along with the 7600/9600, "gives the best
> > negs
> > > on the desktop yet." 
> > 
> > I just recently tried the same image on both my 7600 and my 
> 1280, and 
> > I must respectfully disagree with Dan-He's doing platinum, so he's 
> > relying on the limited resolution of the hand-coated paper 
> to hide the 
> > printer artifacts. There's something about the dither 
> pattern  on the 
> > 7600/2200 that makes it look like it has much
> bigger 
> > dots than it does. The 1280 neg was far smoother and closer to 
> > dotless. Which is not to say that either one will yield a neg
> that's 
> > smooth enough for silver paper, I've yet to prove that to myself.
> > 
> > The material I'm printing on is the Pictorico OHC film, which takes 
> > the Ultrachromes much better than I expected. However, it tends to 
> > show dots, dither patterns, and other printer artifacts (like micro-
> > banding) much more than a normal print would. I understand that 
> > Pictorico's synthetic high gloss material does better, but 
> it is also 
> > quite expensive, and I haven't yet yet tried it.
> > 
> > Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> 
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