Digital BW, The Print

It makes a difference if you're not color managed, but yes assuming 
you're working in a color managed environment (Photoshop), have 
profiled your monitor (or use a stock profile with the right gamma 
value at least), then it doesn't strictly matter, though I would prefer 
2.2 (or the native gamma of my display, especially when working on 
LCD).

It's most important to know what you are looking at, and then 
understand the output conditions - whether you have to convert to sRGB 
for non-color managed apps/people, or whether your output will respect 
profiles (and whether you're handling profiles properly on your end).

Johnny, stick with 2.2 until you have a good reason to change.

-R

On Jun 15, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Tom Baker wrote:

> 2.2, but it doesn't make any difference.
>
> Tom Baker
>
> Johnny Eades <jeades1@...> wrote:
> Back again folks,
>
> I know you are getting tired of me asking the same question, but I
> haven't gotten any answers to it yet. WHAT IS YOUR MONITOR
> CALIBRATED OR SET TO--GG 1.8 OR GG 2.2?
>
> Still your friend in Photography,
>
> Johnny Eades
>
> PS I'll keep asking till someone answers my simple question.
>
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> wrote:
>> But John I think perhaps you are missing the point. Pick a gamma
> setting,
>> say 2.2. Calibrate your profile with this gamma setting. Select
> a PS
>> workspace, say Gray Gamme 2.2 and away you go. The issue only
> appears when
>> you want to soft proof. In a colour environment you would set up
> a soft
>> proof via View/Proof Setup and use the colour profile of the
> printer/media
>> combination you are using. Since B&W printing mostly uses a Same
> as Source
>> method of printing rather than the selection of the printer/media
> ICC
>> profile and colorsyncing the workflow, accurate soft proofing has
> alluded
>> B&W printing for some time. It was Tyler Boley I believe who
> devised a
>> proofing system using a custom dot gain to preview the image. Carl
>> Schofield came upon an ICC based approach that I highlighted to
> you earlier.
>> With an accurate method of soft proofing such as the system used
> by Carl the
>> selection of gamma is irrelevant.
>>
>>
>> From: "Johnny Eades"
>>
>> I received several replies to the question as to what many of you
>> are using your monitor set to---GG 1.8 or GG 2.2; and I may need to
>> clarify my question as first asked. What do many of you have your
>> monitor gamma set to?
>>
>> I understand all the replies that referred to the color management
>> issues and effect of Gamma on display characteristics. I don't have
>> a problem with Gamma myself, I was just asking what many of you
> have
>> your monitor set to. I realize the glossy paper has a higher D-max
>> and is therefore going to print the lower tones darker than Matte
>> paper is ,and I make adjustments to the proof to get the
>> satisfactory resulting print on glossy. If the shadows are to low,
> I
>> raise them to gain printable details relative to the visualized
>> image.Proofing is simply previewing how the finished print should
>> look. My criteria is enough body in the shadows to support the
>> impression there is something visible there.
>>
>> Your friend in Photography,
>>
>> Johnny Eades
>>
>>
>>
>>
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