Digital BW, The Print

Same with a step wedge, blocked up printed from Photoshop 7 smooth 
printed from Picture Window.  The one printed with sliders from 
Picture Window was the smoothest.  We are running Windows 98se. We 
have been running a twisted pair network this way for over 2 years 
never a glitch.  We have had no reason to upgrade.  We have 2000 in 
it's box that's never been opened and have never felt a need to go 
though the hassle.

We may be going the Apple route soon and printing with a 16 bit RIP.  
Maybe not.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth" 
<g.loc@o...> wrote:
> How do step wedges print?
> 
> Gareth
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "islandbuck2" 
> <islandbuck@b...> wrote:
> > It is set to "Photo Paper".
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth" 
> > <g.loc@o...> wrote:
> > > Next...
> > > 
> > > Paper setting in Print Driver - Photo Paper, everything other 
> > setting 
> > > gives 'muddy' images.
> > > 
> > > If you are in 16bit the driver converts to 8bit so any 
fragmented 
> > > histograms you may have will be smoothed out.
> > > 
> > > How do step wedges print, any blocking of tones in any 
particular 
> > > area?
> > > 
> > > Gareth
> > > 
> > > --- In 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "islandbuck2" 
> > > <islandbuck@b...> wrote:
> > > > Yep, Adobe RGB 1998
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ross 
> Borgida 
> > > > <borgida@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Is the RGB in Adobe RGB 1998?  Please check your color 
> settings 
> > > and 
> > > > make sure your RGB settings is Adobe RGB 1998.
> > > > > 
> > > > > islandbuck2 <islandbuck@b...> wrote:16 bit RGB as a matter 
of 
> > > fact.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In 
> > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "islandbuck2" 
> > > > > <islandbuck@b...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yep, curves in RGB.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth" 
> > > > > > <g.loc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Do you print from the file in Grayscale or RGB?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For the curves to work properly you need to work in RGB.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Gareth
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In 
> > > > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "islandbuck2" 
> > > > > > > <islandbuck@b...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Color Settings = Adobe Working Space, Gray Gamma 2.2
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Print Preview = Color Management, Same as Source 
(Adobe)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I know it,  makes no sense to me either.  I even went 
> to 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > extreme 
> > > > > > > > of totally reformatting my system and reinstalling 
> > > > everything.  
> > > > > > > Same 
> > > > > > > > blotchy, posterized output from Photoshop 7 as 
before.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So, I have been Printing from Picture Window 3.5, 
using 
> > the 
> > > > > > sliders 
> > > > > > > > in the Epson driver M -5 C +5 (Warm Neutral), Vivid, 
> > Gamma 
> > > > 1.8 
> > > > > > > (don't 
> > > > > > > > understand this one either you would think 2.2) on 
> EEM.  
> > I 
> > > > have 
> > > > > > > spent 
> > > > > > > > literally hundreds of dollars on ink and paper to 
> arrive 
> > at 
> > > > > > this.  
> > > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > am getting the finest prints I have ever gotten from 
an 
> > > > inkjet 
> > > > > > this 
> > > > > > > > way.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I keep my proofs at 16 bit.  I feel that some point I 
> > will 
> > > be 
> > > > > > using 
> > > > > > > > at 16 bit print driver/RIP.  I wonder if this has 
> > anything 
> > > to 
> > > > > do 
> > > > > > > with 
> > > > > > > > it. Picture Window automatically converts to 8 bit 
> before 
> > > > > sending 
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > the driver. I know this happens in Photoshop some 
were 
> > down 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > line 
> > > > > > > > while printing.  I've converted to eight bit before 
> > > printing 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > > > Photoshop as well, same output. The digitally 
captured 
> > > files 
> > > > I 
> > > > > am 
> > > > > > > > using are in reality 12 bit padded to 16.  I wonder 
if 
> > this 
> > > > has 
> > > > > > > > anything to do with it?  I wonder if the 16 to 8 bit 
> > > > conversion 
> > > > > > > > algorithm is different is some way in Picture 
Window.  
> I 
> > > need 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > > ask 
> > > > > > > > this one to Jonathan Sachs over at Digital Light and 
> > Color. 
> > > I 
> > > > > > > > wouldn't think so though.  Well, at least I have an 
> > option 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > > works 
> > > > > > > > very well.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In 
> > > > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jeffleeg8" 
> > > > > > > > <jeff120749@n...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What are you settings? I'm us PS7 with the curves 
and 
> > > > > > > > > getting "darkroom" quality prints - great shadow 
> detail 
> > > and 
> > > > > > tonal 
> > > > > > > > > range.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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