Hi Paul, yep got it set to "No Color Adjustment" in the driver. I think OS, Photoshop version and all the other mind bending variables with particular installations is coming into play here. The lack of coherent permanent standards in this industry I believe is puts this industry on very shaky ground with people that depend on this for a living. With traditional processes I had a well laid out, finite set of variables in my mind. - The Particular films curve - Exposure at time of capture - Paper Curve - Exposure of Paper A little simplistic but no so really. The whole process could be easily abstracted in my mind because semi-permanent standards by the industry were adhered to. What will become of my RAW files in twenty years. I personally believe this "lack of standards" is in fact the "milk cow" of this industry. Knowing this makes me appreciate your efforts all the more. Thanks Paul. I don't think I should worry about this any more. My prints are coming out superb printing from Picture Window with the Epson drivers sliders. Thanks again. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > With curves, you must use "No Color Adjustment." > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see: > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ > > ______________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: adolphamster [mailto:dolph@m...] > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:43 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Using MIS UT inks, Roark curves - request help > > I have been trying to use the Roark UT2 curves with my Epson 1280 > printer and MIS UT2 inks, with mixed results. I am using Picture > Window inasmuch as this program seems to handle the *.acv files well. > (Or is this an unwarranted assumption?) > > The following is the "workflow" I am using: > > Open PW (Picture Window) > Import a black and white image in 16 bit B&W format > > Perform: > > Transformation ->Convert to 24 bit color > Transformation -> Color -> Curves > > Option : Reset > Option : Load > select Photoshop Curve files > Select: UT2*.acv file (here I select from among the 4 > options: dark > sepia, light sepia, carbon, neutral) > Apply (with RGB color space) > > I then print using: Photo Enhance > Tone: vivid > Effect: sharpness > > I seem to get "reasonable" results with the carbon and neutral files > (i.e., the carbon is slightly warmer than the neutral). But the light > and dark sepia results are very disappointing: the detail in the image > is severely compromised, the prints are muddy and both sepias seem to > have about the same value - rather light). > > I'd appreciate suggestions? Or am I asking too much of the Roark > curves with this system? > > Thank you. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Using MIS UT inks, Roark curves - request help
2004-07-02 by islandbuck2
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