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Re: I'm going with Cone Editions Inks

2004-07-14 by alanwdd

Stephane:

I was once a Piezo user - I still look at some of the old prints that 
I made with the PS PlugIn - they were good.

When they moved to the ICC format I rode along - I could never get a 
good print.

I continue to be confused by the Piezo failure and lack of ownership 
in the failure. Sometimes I wonder if this is a problem caused by an 
artistic approach to technology. Deadlines are presented, missed and 
never acknowledged. The idea that each print setup needs to be 
taylored with a custom ICC set (this being how they propose to fix 
customers like me who could not get their systems working) makes me 
wonder if they really know what they are doing. Epson and other 
printer vendors spend millions on making sure every printer is 
identical. So ... gets the inks indentical and get a good ICC - not 
so much magic.

I've switched to the UT2 inks and am happy with the results - 
However, I still look at the Piezo prints and want to move back when 
Piezo gets back on track.

Perhaps the biggest difference between Piezo and UT2 is the fact that 
people are treated as real customers on the UT2 side. Paul has 
answered each of my e-mails the same day.

We all know some big vendor will walk in soon and present a viable 
B&W solution that we can buy and use as easily as we do color these 
days. Untik then the market will stay with the little guy who 
provides service.

A ramble ... I feel poorly for the Piezo folks - a good product 
spoiled by a lack of understanding of technology and how to do 
business. My greatest respects for the UT2 folks - a good product 
supported by people who are willing to do anything to make it a 
sucess.

AW


--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "stephane_bosman" 
<stephane_bosman@y...> wrote:
> IMHO, you have just wasted money. I have spent a year using Cone 
Piezo inks and have 
> just replaced them with MIS UT2. Guess what, the same file printed 
on the same paper 
> with both inksets are absolutely impossible to tell apart if 
printed with the same warm 
> tonality. And UT2 allows me neutral and cool prints, which Piezo 
does not.
> 
> Add to this the suite of unkept promises from Cone, the overpriced 
useless software and 
> I'm done with them.
> 
> Good luck anyway in your new endeavour :-)
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tigertwous" 
<jfisher@s...> wrote:
> > I've just ordered my set of Piezography inks from IJM for my 
Epson 7600 inked
> >  with matt black UC inks, I'm running Studio Print 10 from a 
Windows XP Pro system 
> > and will have access to a X-rite DTP41. I plan on using Epson 
Enhanced Matte to learn 
> > on but will move up to some other types as I get my feet wet. Any 
suggestions as to 
> > what I should do first (other than the obvious) I usually just 
play around and find my 
> > way in the dark and eventually come up with what I need, but I 
thought if I ask you 
> > folks I may be able to shorten the time it takes to achieve some 
successful results.
> >  
> >  Thanks I'm looking forward to making some spectacular prints in 
the future.
> >  
> >  Jack Fisher
> >  St. Louis, MO

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