Ross, Thanks for your comments. I am doing BW and also some color with my 2200. There's probably alot I can do to improve my printing with the system I'm using right now - I've been doing digital printing for less the a year and I'm still on a learning curve. Its nice to know there are other options out there if I ever decide to get a dedicated BW set-up. I have an Epson C84 that I got for free (after rebates) that I am considering using the MIS EZ BW set-up. That might be a cheap way to try out third party inks and compare side by side with my current set-up. Dave --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ross Borgida <borgida@y...> wrote: > Really it comes down to whether you want to use the epson 2200 for color and black and white or just black and white..if you are using color and black and white, stick with the epson UC inks and a RIP..however, if you are only doing black and white, I would suggest a quadtone ink setup...i have used Imageprint but am now using the UT2 inks and the results are superior to the RIP w/ epson uc ink results..that is just my opinion though.. > > you can ask IJM or MIS to send samples of prints before purchasing..that way, you can get a taste for whats out there before making your investment. > > good luck and have fun! > > dave08g <dave08g@y...> wrote: > Hi, > > I can certainly understand why someone would want to go to third party > inks if they are using a Windows system and didn't want to shell out > big bucks for Image Print. But I would like to know why anyone with a > MAC and 2200 would prefer a third party ink solution to either OPM or > QTR. > > I am using a MAC/2200 with UC inks and QTR and I love the results. Is > there a better solution that gives better print quality, longevity, > lower costs, etc that I don't know about? If so, which system? > > Thanks, > > Dave Gordon > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" > <tyler@t...> wrote: > > What's the problem with options? You see people on lists seeking help > > with problems, there are others with few to none using 3rd party inks > > that have no time for lists, and Epsons are hardly free of problems > > either. Some people, including myself, also prefer the results they > > get from other processes to the B&W solution from Imageprint, and also > > may prefer the companies they deal with to Colorbyte. > > It sounds like you have your solution and are happy with it, and are > > convinced it's the only way, so I'm not sure what kind of answer you > > are looking for. > > Tyler > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "digikdm" > > <monroekd@h...> wrote: > > > Would someone explain to be why there is so much banter/trial and > > > error/ and switching of vendors with regards to third party ink > > > systems when all you really need is a good RIP using Epson inks. I > > > know someone will counter that one of the colored Epson UC inks( > > > yellow is the usual culprit mentioned) will > > > fade over time producing metamerism, but there is little to no proof > > > of the latter using the newer Epson UC inks. The prints I've seen > > > using Imageprint as a RIP are as good as any I've seen( other than > > > fiber-based halide)using any other ink systems. Why burden yourself > > > with ink clogs and ever-changing curves, etc. It's a technology bog. > > > > I've found the upfront costs of Imageprint( admittedly a RIP-off, pun > > > intended) to be worth the cost in the long run. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tigertwous" > > > <jfisher@s...> wrote: > > > > I've just ordered my set of Piezography inks from IJM for my Epson > > > 7600 inked > > > > with matt black UC inks, I'm running Studio Print 10 from a > > > Windows XP Pro system > > > > and will have access to a X-rite DTP41. I plan on using Epson > > > Enhanced Matte to learn > > > > on but will move up to some other types as I get my feet wet. 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Re: Why bother with third party inks?
2004-07-15 by dave08g