Digital BW, The Print

Clayton,

I think Condor BW and Moab Entrada BW both use the same coating (old Eclipse
coating).  The Hawk Mountain version is said to be 310 v. 300 gsm for the
thicker Entrada (which is also available at 190 gsm).  However, visually
they look about the same -- one side slightly more textured than the other.
So, I'm not sure but what they are coming off the same machine.

Eclipse used to flake badly.  I'm afraid Entrada is plagued with the same
problem.  I have not used enough Condor BW to know.

Jerry O., who loved very cold prints, used Eclipse and found that wiping it
with a soft cloth eliminated the problem, without, apparently, leaving any
marks.  (PhotoRag can show the wiping or brushing marks.)

Frankly, no flaking and a dmax of 1.65 or better is what I consider to be a
reasonable target for a good cotton paper.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Jones [mailto:cj@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 7:36 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Condor BW and other Hawk Mountain Papers

Hello Paul,

>Condor BW and Entrada BW .02/.54/1.61
>Pricing for 25 sheets of 13 x 19" paper:  
>Hawk Mtn. Condor BW on its website -- $65
>Moab Entrada Fine Art 300 on Lexjet website -- $51.

Very nice detective work!  Do you suppose they are the same paper from
the same mfgr?


>solve the flaking problem.

Amen.  And the same to H. as well.  Paying PR's high price and then
having it's bad flaking is adding insult to injury.  I wonder if they
care and are working on a solution...


Thanks for all your good work.

Regards,
Clayton


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