Carl, >Premier Premium Matte fits the dmax 1.65+ and no flaking criteria, >but it is unfortunately not cotton (although claimed to be acid >and lignin free) and 210 gsm is the heaviest available. >Did you ever test this paper for acid and/or yellowing? I have had a couple of beta samples, which impressed me also. I found the samples I had did very well on the 3000, but did not have a very good dmax on the newer printers. I have been trying to get production samples of this paper, but so far have not received any. I have been told that no wood-based paper can actually be 100% lignin free. I think <1% is what is realistically considered "archival" if the buffer is >2%. The residual lignin might still cause some yellowing, since it is photo sensitive as well as an acid reserve. However, in testing EEM (which is typical of a good wood-fiber paper, but without buffering), I found under strong UV it, like the cotton papers, actually bleached somewhat. So, it's possible that a good wood paper that is properly buffered is fine and will not yellow significantly. In fact, it's possible a wood-based paper can be better than cotton. I suspect the flaking problem is due to the softness of the cotton paper. I think of a coating of clay on a pillow. Also, the huge irony may be that lignin appears to absorb atmospheric pollutants, protecting the paper and pigments from gas pollution attack. I would not count on the above, but the bottom line is that a good wood-based paper may be fine and a good value. I think a buffered wood paper that matches EEM on both the image quality and price fronts would do the field a tremendous amount of good. The sooner we can dump EEM as the draft and everyday paper of choice, the better. Paul www.PaulRoark.com ___________________ On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, at 12:04 PM, Paul Roark wrote: > Frankly, no flaking and a dmax of 1.65 or better is what I consider to > be a > reasonable target for a good cotton paper. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > ________________________________ Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] Condor BW and other Hawk Mountain Papers
2004-07-27 by Paul Roark
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