Digital BW, The Print

Randy  -
 
The "Kodak B&W Print" and "Gelatin Silver Print" are not equivalent.  "Gelatin Silver Print" is the description of a process, like Giclee or Fine Art Inkjet Print.  "Kodak B&W Print" is a brand of some of the products that might be used in the Gelatin Silver process, like Epson or Ultrachrome, etc.
 
I too would like a term that was accepted by the producers, purveyors, and buyers of these prints.  Unfortunately, the term "Giclee" has been used and abused by the snobbish up to this point.  One (or more) generally accepted, descriptive terms would be of great value to us.
 
Tom Baker


Randy Rancier <rrancier@...> wrote:
I know Museums like descriptive names. I like the following that I 
think are descriptive:

Digital Carbon Print
Digital Carbon on Rag (or cotton) paper
Digital Carbon Pigment Print
("Digital" being optional)
Carbon print (Piezography process)-As mentioned before
Carbon based pigment print

or any combination of the above that works.
What ever name you use I think it needs to say "Craftsmanship"; and 
not the common, "anybody do this stuff" (inkjet).

I don't like the word inkjet, because of misconceptions, and I think 
it will cheapen peoples impressions of the print; "Hey I got one of 
them at home". Not good if you are selling your work! People buying 
prints like to think they are getting something special. You don't 
see a "Weston" labeled in a Museum as "Kodak B&W Print" even though 
it is, no it says "Gelatin Silver Print".
Randy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Fink 
wrote:
> At 01:17 PM 8/3/2004, Tim Atherton wrote:
> 
> > > I put on my labels
> > >
> > > Carbon print (Piezography process)
> > >
> > > And for color prints using pigment inks
> > >
> > > Pigment print
> >
> >same problem I outlined below here - unless you clearly specify 
the inkjet
> >or piezo process (as you do in the top one)
> >
> >there are existing, long established Carbon Print and Pigment Print
> >processes (which also happen to be some of the most long lasting
> >photogrpahic process around - which is why some critics have 
whispered
> >"deception" - something I disagree with - but the label is out 
there - I
> >think it's down to lack of knowledge of photogrpahic processes in 
most
> >cases)
> 
> Would you prefer
> 
> Carbon inkjet print (Piezography process)
> 
> Pigment inkjet print
> 
> Does the word "inkjet" hurt? Many people assume that
> inkjet means fading, and poor quality. We need to
> educate, but I'm not sure that the print label is
> where to do that.
> 
> 
> 
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