Rene said: >I'm also printing BO with Eboni. But before that I've used VM inks. >My experience was that the black of the VM system, gives a more >neutral tone then Eboni. Then Clayton said: >Yes it does, because the VM black ink has dye in it and it will warm >over time (a few months) if exposed to light. After it warms it will >be warmer than Eboni. I read Rene's message, tried the suggestion of printing BO with the MIS VM black, and the print looked great, much more neutral than BO with Eboni. But then Clayton had to come along and ruin everything. Oh well, I've made two identical BO prints with MIS VM black. I'll keep one out and put the other in a box, then compare then in a few months to confirm Clayton's statement which I'm sure is true, I'd just like to see for myself. Too bad, the BO print with MIS VM black looks really nice right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clayton Jones" <cj@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Ink For Black Only Printing Hello Rene, >I'm also printing BO with Eboni. But before that I've used VM inks. >My experience was that the black of the VM system, gives a more >neutral tone then Eboni. Yes it does, because the VM black ink has dye in it and it will warm over time (a few months) if exposed to light. After it warms it will be warmer than Eboni. I used that ink before Eboni came along and dared not sell a print made with it. Not only does it warm but it also fades over time. I pinned prints to my bulletin board and watched them fade over a year's time. Eboni (and probably Museum Black which according to Paul Roark seems like the same stuff) is the least warm of the non-dyed black inks. I've had an Eboni BO print on my south window sill since last November 5th getting some direct sunlight every day, and at 9 months now still shows no signs of fading or color shifting. Great stuff. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ink For Black Only Printing
2004-08-04 by B. Campbell
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