Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ink For Black Only Printing
2004-08-04 by B. Campbell
Thanks for the reply, I'll check out other papers. The problem for me with printing warm isn't so much that I dislike warm (though for most photographs I do prefer a more neutral look) as it is that I use MIS VM inks in my other printer and so am already able to make warm tone prints. I was hoping that BO would expand my range of possible colors more in the neutral area than in the warm area.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Clayton Jones" <cj@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:47 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Ink For Black Only Printing Hello Bellis, >I've been using Epson Photo Black and Epson Enhanced Matte paper in >my 2200 for BO printing just to see what BO looked like. I've been >generally pleased with the results but the prints are on the warm >side so I replaced the Photo Black with MIS Eboni which everyone >seems to say is the best black to use for BO. I ran three cleaning >cycles and then printed. The prints are still on the warm side and >don't otherwise look any different than the same prints done with >Photo Black. Is it possible that three cleaning cycles weren't enough >to remove all the Photo Black from the printer? Three cycles should be enough. >Apart from that, what am I supposed to be seeing with MIS Eboni >that makes it preferable to Epson's Photo Black for BO printing? Several things: First, on any given matte paper Eboni will be a bit less warm than Photo Black (PK) or Matte Black (MK, which is also less warm than PK). Second, Eboni and MK both have better Dmax than PK (on Matte paper). Third, different papers render carbon inks at different degrees of warm. With Eboni the tones range from cold, almost pure black, to warmer than EEM. Because Eboni is the least warm of the non-dyed carbon blacks, gets among the highest longevity ratings, and is cheaper than the Epson inks (and some say is prettier), it has become the favorite ink for many BO users. So on EEM, Eboni should still look warm, but not as warm as PK. As for other papers, there is an article called "The Great Paper Chase" at the link below (#5 in the series) which lists several papers and describes the ink color and other properties using Eboni. It's possible to have a selection of several papers that will produce a range of tones so we can choose one which best suits each image. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links