Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john 
dean" <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> Barrett and anyone else,
> 
> I take it this new Lyson gloss paper that resembles fiber paper 
> is not compatable with Ultra-Chrome or other pigment 
> inksets?

Since the paper is of the "swellable" variety, I suppose it *might* 
work with pigs - I'm thinking here of my experience using Epson 
Semi-Gloss in both my 1160 and 2200 - but don't quote me on 
that!

> I used the Lyson Quad inkset for a year in my Ep. 7000 and 
> 1270's and they looked fine in daylight or flourecent but RED 
> as hell under tungsten ( not slightly warm to me but red as
> hell). I  then used the Lyson Small Gamut inks for 2 more years 
> and to some degree especially with neutral prints there is still 
> metamerism under tungsten. Since most gallery illumination
> is tungsten I was always fighting this issue and NEVER want 
> to do so again.

Depending on the paper I've used, I've seen Quad Black Neutral 
get a bit warm under incandescent lighting (HPR particularly, 
which to my eye starts off looking warm even under natural light), 
but just a bit.

> Does anyone have any suggestions in regard to printing on 
> this paper with any ink other than Lyson's? I've heard that even 
> their new improved multi-tone inkset for 7 color printers also
> has significant metamerism.

I don't know anything about their multi-tone inkset yet.  I *was* 
thinking about trying whatever the latest MIS inkset is to use in 
my spare 1160 as an experiement, but I have someone 
interested in buying it.  (Anybody have or know of a cheap-but- 
working 3000 for sale?:-)


> I understand that the UT pigments can be used on glossy 
> media but no one I've read on this site or others really thinks it 
> is a good idea. To me this could be a delimma. Finally a paper 
> that resembles the brilliance of a real fiber air dried glossy
> surface but no suitable inkset to use with it. Am I wrong?

Can't say for sure - I'll try a sheet or two in the 2200 in a few
days if I'm brave enough. :-)

- Barrett