Digital BW, The Print

Carl, this is true in the Mac implementation but in the recent 
Windows XP case the profiles are binary (well sort of) files that 
are not obviously amenable to editing.

Yes I agree looking at the txt Mac profiles that the differences are 
quite subtle.

This then means that there is not a definite Selenium profile in 
either (MAc or PC) case so that two profile merging as is the case 
with Sepia or Warm(which is more or less a diluted Sepia) is not 
available for Selenium tones.

The way I see it there are currently two very subtlely different 
base positions (Cool or CoolSe) and two points in the same direction 
Warm followed by Sepia. So that a very good range of excellent 
control from Sepia to neutral B&W can be obtained but with very 
little control in the Selenium direction.

What would be needed to round this would be a "cold"_Selenium 
followed by a Selenium. I am sure that there is quite a bit of work 
to get it to the level of quality there there is so far so perhaps 
it is somewhere in the future.

John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:
> The difference between the Cool and CoolSe profiles is quite 
subtle and 
> as you can see from a look inside each of the profiles the only 
> difference is the relative amounts of light cyan and light magenta 
inks 
> that are used.  The Warm profile uses only the black and light 
black 
> inks whereas the Sepia profile adds light magenta, yellow, and a 
little 
> light cyan.  You could of course change the ink limits to produce 
> stronger toning if desired.
> 
> Carl
> 
> COOL
> N_OF_INKS=7
> DEFAULT_INK_LIMIT=75
> 
> LIMIT_K=
> BOOST_K=90
> LIMIT_C=0
> LIMIT_M=0
> LIMIT_Y=0
> LIMIT_LC=27
> LIMIT_LM=27
> LIMIT_LK=56
> 
> COOLSe
> N_OF_INKS=7
> DEFAULT_INK_LIMIT=75
> 
> LIMIT_K=
> BOOST_K=90
> LIMIT_C=0
> LIMIT_M=0
> LIMIT_Y=0
> LIMIT_LC=25
> LIMIT_LM=29
> LIMIT_LK=56
> 
> WARM
> N_OF_INKS=7
> DEFAULT_INK_LIMIT=75
> 
> LIMIT_K=
> BOOST_K=90
> LIMIT_C=0
> LIMIT_M=0
> LIMIT_Y=0
> LIMIT_LC=0
> LIMIT_LM=0
> LIMIT_LK=60
> 
> 
> SEPIA
> N_OF_INKS=7
> DEFAULT_INK_LIMIT=75
> 
> LIMIT_K=
> BOOST_K=90
> LIMIT_C=0
> LIMIT_M=0
> LIMIT_Y=10
> LIMIT_LC=9
> LIMIT_LM=29
> LIMIT_LK=56
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at 06:26  PM, johnglodge wrote:
> 
> > In EEM when I use the four curves warm, cool, Sepia and coolSE I
> > find no difference between cool and coolSE.
> > Sepia is a stronger warm than warm and cool is essentially
> > black&white with no color caste.
> >
> > That is coolSE appears not to be correct yes the filesize is 2 
bytes
> > shorter but it prints the same???
> >
> > Anyone else see this.
> >
> > What I was aiming to do was see the four extremes.
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> > resources as they are often being updated.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you 
wish 
> > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by 
visiting 
> > this same page.
> >
> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier 
messages to 
> > keep them short.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or 
> > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be 
removed from 
> > the membership without notice.
> > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of 
digital 
> > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
> > removed from the membership.
> > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules 
and 
> > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the 
group 
> > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in 
the 
> > Files section:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
> >
> > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, 
THE 
> > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT 
THE "OWNER" 
> > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT 
BE 
> > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED 
TO, 
> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER 
INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE 
PRINT 
> > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
DAMAGES), 
> > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL 
BW, 
> > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION 
OF 
> > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY 
THIRD 
> > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY 
OTHER 
> > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >