Digital BW, The Print

Thanks for the suggestions Antonis.  I'll see what I can do with this 
paper and the UC inks first.  The Oriental FB paper is almost there 
with the UC pigs - negligible bronzing and no metamerism, but the 
mirror gloss finish kills it for me.  I may try some coatings with the 
latter to see if I can reduce the gloss.

Carl
On Thursday, August 26, 2004, at 07:44  PM, Antonis wrote:

> Carl,
>
> that's quite the dilemma. If you have the small gamuts, and don't mind
> profiling them, that's your best shot. On a 6 ink printer you can throw
> in some quads too. If you profile right and check the spectral makeup
> of your scale with a spectro, you can just about eliminate metamerism.
>
> If you already have the Fotonics....   why not give it a try. You may 
> profile
> for daylight (or whatever light you choose) and stick with it. 
> Remember,
> the Fotonics are more fugitive than the Lysonics. And it will be much
> harder to profile and fight metamerism with this combo.
>
> Plan B is the UC or UT with their respective Photo K.
> Printing BO from OPM, I got 2.04 with MIS UT PK from an 1160
> and 1.80 using the 2200 / UC / PK
> Definitely not what Lyson recommends, of course.
>
> I haven't profiled it with the pigment inks, so haven't seen what 
> grays do
> (and any overload  issues). There is a bit of bronzing, which is
> absent with dyes.
> And the image is not waterproof, it  can be wiped clean if it gets wet 
> !
> Even cleaner than it does with dyes. Maybe a light spray can fix it
> and fight bronzing at the same time....?  This may undo the nice
> surface finish though.
>
> Antonis
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Schofield"
> <scho@m...> wrote:
>> InkJetArt is now selling the Darkroom Range Gloss paper.  I'd love to 
>> try this
> paper in
>> my 2200, but what inkset might give decent B&W prints without
> metamerism?  I
>> thought about trying to profile it with the Fotonics and a RIP, using 
>> only the
> K, LK, LC,
>> and LM inks (as I've already done with the UC inks and matte papers) 
>> to get
> a neutral
>> tone but I'm concerned about metamerism with the Lyson dyes.  
>> Alternatives
> might
>> be some combination of the Quad blacks and Small gamut inks.  Any 
>> other
>> suggestions or is this a hopeless case of a great paper but no 
>> suitable
> inkset to use it
>> with?
>>
>> Carl
>>
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