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Re: [Digital BW] QTR on XP Home Edition?

2004-08-27 by johnglodge

The way to separate the pieces here is to print to file and 
separately spool the file to the printer, using the Epson driver and 
QTR.

The time differences for creating the print file and then for 
printing it will thus be separated.

...John 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
<Alan.Huntley@c...> wrote:
> Paul/Tom,
> 
> Back when I used QTR on my Mac (G4 - 450mhz) I found it to be 
about 50%, at least, slower than the Epson driver. If I remember 
correctly--been a couple of years--it was about 40 minutes to print 
~A3 size! To be fair to QTR and Roy, I firmly believe the lack of 
speed was due to GIMP. Maybe the latest release of the GIMP drivers 
are faster...dunno...I use IP on Windoze, now.
> 
> Alan Huntley
> 
> > 
> > From: Tom Baker <tbaker1328@s...>
> > Date: 2004/08/26 Thu PM 04:05:24 EDT
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] QTR on XP Home Edition?
> > 
> > Paul  -
> >  
> > I haven't printed anything on my 9600 with the Epson drivers in 
over a year.  But, as I recall, IP is slower than the Epson 
drivers.  Especially if one is printing at 2880.  When I upgraded my 
computer, I did not see any difference in prints speeds, so I 
believe the differences must be in the bit streams being sent to the 
printer.  IP's may be quite a bit more complex.
> >  
> > Tom Baker
> > 
> > Paul Roark <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Tom,
> > 
> > >When you say IP and QTR are 'slow', what symptoms are you 
talking about?
> > 
> > With QTR I've just printed the same test image (a test strip on 
a layer of
> > an 8x10) with both QTR (a grayscale file) and the Epson driver 
(RGB file,
> > curve applied, 1440, high speed off). The Epson driver took 142 
seconds;
> > QTR took 270 seconds.
> > 
> > At Anderson Ranch they have IP6 for their 9600. I was amazed at 
how long it
> > took to print one of my images. The staff there concurred that 
the program
> > printed much slower than the Epson driver. I don't have the 
program myself,
> > so I have not been able to quantify the difference. 
> > 
> > So, I have limited observations, and there may be variables that 
I'm not
> > aware of, but it looks like the Epson driver might have an edge 
when it
> > comes to speed.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > ____________________________________
> > 
> > Paul Roark 
> > wrote:
> > Evan,
> > 
> > I've been out of the loop for a while but just tried QTR on my 
XP Home, and
> > it works fine. It's slow and the dmax is low for the EEM neutral 
curve
> > supplied, but I'm going to try adjusting the ink load to see if 
that takes
> > care of the latter problem. (I tried Image Print and found it 
was very slow
> > also. I don't know if that is typical of third party RIPs or 
not.)
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> > ________________________
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wolarsky [mailto:wolarsky@i...] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:51 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] QTR on XP Home Edition?
> > 
> > Will QTR run on XP Home Edition or is the Professional version 
needed?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Evan
> > 
> > 
> > 
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THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT 
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SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, 
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OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF 
DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE 
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE 
INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) 
UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; 
(iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, 
THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE 
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may be removed from the membership.
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THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT 
THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP 
SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, 
SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT 
LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR 
OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF 
DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE 
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE 
INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) 
UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; 
(iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, 
THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE 
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