Digital BW, The Print

Todd,
I really think we don't disagree...we just choose different words. You say
it perfectly
> I don't put my very being into my work to so as to communicate with anyone,
> though I might show it for that reason. I make it because I love to -
> because I have a passion for it - because it satisfies me on a deep soulful
> level. That's reason enough for me
Art is creation
interpretation is just
interpretation.

Art is a passion
the world is inspiration
I make art to live.

t


> From: Todd Flashner <tflash@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:52:49 -0400
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: ART and LIFE
> 
> This will probably be my last post on this too.
> 
> Ultimately art is and does many different things for different people. My
> art, and my rational for doing it may just be very different than yours, yet
> we may both make art. Forgive me if I made it seem like my rationale were
> any better than yours, it's not, it's purely MY rationale.
> 
> Was it Duchamp who said, "it's art if I say it is", or something like that?
> I'm in this camp, I like this mindset. It gives power to the artist, it
> makes the artist the master of his creations, and I like that. Otherwise
> your work is only art if a critic (public, friend, viewer) says it is?
> Phooey!
> 
> That art can be a powerful communicator does not make the communication the
> art. Communication requires two people, the creation of art requires one.
> Communication comes after the fact, when the art is seen, but the art itself
> exists upon creation. What of a person? Is a person who lives as a recluse
> not a person until he communicates with another person? When did the
> existence of things become predicated upon communication?
> 
> I don't put my very being into my work to so as to communicate with anyone,
> though I might show it for that reason. I make it because I love to -
> because I have a passion for it - because it satisfies me on a deep soulful
> level. That's reason enough for me. Critics and viewers are purely optional,
> and the interpretation of the work by a viewer says more about the viewer
> than it does about the work.
> 
> IMHO.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
>> I'd agree it isn't going anywhere if it turns into a verbal fencing match,
>> but
>> thanks for your views.
>> 
>> I jumped in not for a discussion of what is valuable, but because I'm
>> interested in what one
>> considers to be art and what art does. We don't have to agree on what it is
>> as
>> long as we know 
>> what someone else means when they use the term.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>>> I have resisted jumping into (piling onto?) this discussion because
>>> (for me) it wasn't going anywhere.  Sweeping pronouncements about
>>> "this is valuable and that isn't" don't get me very far- it all
>>> depends upon the context.
>>> 
>>> Communication with others requires clarity, clarity requires
>>> contemplation,
>>> study, and experimentation.  Communication with oneself may indeed
>>> devolve into navel gazing, or "personal therapy;"  on the other hand
>>> it is the corner stone of successful communication with others.
>>> 
>>> Bill Morse
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Tim Spragens
>> http://www.borderless-photos.com
>> &
>> http://www.borderless-photos.de
>> 
>> 
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