The reason we use a disproportionate number of Epson printers is that their patented Piezo-electric head seems to be the only one that can pump the higher viscosities needed to hold pigment particles in suspension. At this point in the technology, pigments -- especially the carbon that is the basic one used for B&W pigment inksets -- still have a major advantage over dyes in longevity. For dyes, the route to longevity is the "swellable" papers. The Ilford version of this appears to be about as good as the others, judging from my fade testing. Paul www.PaulRoark.com ____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: The Wogster [mailto:wogsterca@...] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:09 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] HP, Paper and Film, oh my Dear List: I have an HP Deskjet 842C, okay stop laughing. All of the long term inks I have seen are for Epson printers, is there a long term ink, for HP printers, even something like in a refill kit? Is the HP black ink reasonably good for longevity? What kind of papers could give good results with a printer such as this one, other then the standard HP paper? What about the Ilford Papers, always liked their film, and silver papers, even liked the Ilfochrome, although it was Cibachrome back then. The maximum print size on my printer is 8.5x14, but back in my fume room days, I never printed larger then 8x10 anyway. If your going to suggest a different printer, don't bother, it's way, way, way down the list. Last item, what is the best B&W film for scanning, I am leaning towards the chromogenics, because they are more friendly towards Digital ICE, and can be easily run through C-41 chemistries, just about anywhere? W Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] HP, Paper and Film, oh my
2004-09-14 by Paul Roark
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