Digital BW, The Print

To obtain PermaJet papers -- Alpha (OBA free), Omega (some brighteners), &
Delta (more brighteners, but still less than most) -- or to find out where
they can be purchased, call Jobo at 800-664-0344.  Usually Mark is the
person to contact.  If he's out (like now) ask for Ricke.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hargens [mailto:chargens@...] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:52 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega?

Are these papers available yet in the US? I did a web search and 
could only locate UK vendors.

Chris Hargens

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Alpha is OBA free.  Delta has some OBAs.  Omega, I thought, has 
some, but
> under a black light (not the best one in the world) there seems to 
be very
> little if any in it.  
> 
> Omega has a dmax of 1.67.  Each batch of paper seems to vary a bit, 
but all
> three of the new PermaJet papers are consistently between PhotoRag 
(1.71)
> and EEM (1.64-5), which is excellent.  
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> _________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtuallygrey [mailto:stephengledhill@y...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:44 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega?
> 
> I've recently started using both - limited to A4 size so far - with 
> my 2100 and UT7 inks.  They're both 310 gsm, they're both slightly 
> smoother than Photorag.  The Omega is very slightly whiter than 
> Photorag whilst the Alpha is a very pale cream.  To me they're 
> identical but for the colour difference.
> 
> I like them both and plan to use them along with Photorag - 
> particularly for sales.  DMax seems excellent to my eye, but that's 
> the only measuring equipment I've got.
> 
> I've seen somewhere in this group a reference that they (or at last 
> the Alpha) don't use optical brighteners, although you'd have to 
> check that for yourself.  So presumably no flaking - although I've 
> never experienced that with Photorag.  As for permanence - who 
> knows.  But as 100% cotton rag they should be (?) up there with the 
> best.
> 
> Steve Gledhill
> http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ptang1uk" 
> <michael@m...> wrote:
> > Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare 
> > image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the 
latter 
> > with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negative 
> > permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site.
> 
> 
> 
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