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2004-09-14 by ptang1uk
Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the latter with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negative permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site.
2004-09-14 by virtuallygrey
I've recently started using both - limited to A4 size so far - with my 2100 and UT7 inks. They're both 310 gsm, they're both slightly smoother than Photorag. The Omega is very slightly whiter than Photorag whilst the Alpha is a very pale cream. To me they're identical but for the colour difference. I like them both and plan to use them along with Photorag - particularly for sales. DMax seems excellent to my eye, but that's the only measuring equipment I've got. I've seen somewhere in this group a reference that they (or at last the Alpha) don't use optical brighteners, although you'd have to check that for yourself. So presumably no flaking - although I've never experienced that with Photorag. As for permanence - who knows. But as 100% cotton rag they should be (?) up there with the best. Steve Gledhill http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ptang1uk" <michael@m...> wrote:
> Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare > image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the latter > with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negative > permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site.
2004-09-14 by Paul Roark
Alpha is OBA free. Delta has some OBAs. Omega, I thought, has some, but under a black light (not the best one in the world) there seems to be very little if any in it. Omega has a dmax of 1.67. Each batch of paper seems to vary a bit, but all three of the new PermaJet papers are consistently between PhotoRag (1.71) and EEM (1.64-5), which is excellent. Paul www.PaulRoark.com _________________________________
-----Original Message----- From: virtuallygrey [mailto:stephengledhill@...] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:44 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega? I've recently started using both - limited to A4 size so far - with my 2100 and UT7 inks. They're both 310 gsm, they're both slightly smoother than Photorag. The Omega is very slightly whiter than Photorag whilst the Alpha is a very pale cream. To me they're identical but for the colour difference. I like them both and plan to use them along with Photorag - particularly for sales. DMax seems excellent to my eye, but that's the only measuring equipment I've got. I've seen somewhere in this group a reference that they (or at last the Alpha) don't use optical brighteners, although you'd have to check that for yourself. So presumably no flaking - although I've never experienced that with Photorag. As for permanence - who knows. But as 100% cotton rag they should be (?) up there with the best. Steve Gledhill http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ptang1uk" <michael@m...> wrote: > Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare > image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the latter > with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negative > permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site. Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-09-14 by ptang1uk
> Alpha is OBA free. Delta has some OBAs. Omega, I thought, hassome, but
> under a black light (not the best one in the world) there seems tobe very
> little if any in it.bit, but all
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> Omega has a dmax of 1.67. Each batch of paper seems to vary a
> three of the new PermaJet papers are consistently between PhotoRag(1.71)
> and EEM (1.64-5), which is excellent.with
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
> _________________________________
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtuallygrey [mailto:stephengledhill@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:44 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega?
>
> I've recently started using both - limited to A4 size so far -
> my 2100 and UT7 inks. They're both 310 gsm, they're both slightlythat's
> smoother than Photorag. The Omega is very slightly whiter than
> Photorag whilst the Alpha is a very pale cream. To me they're
> identical but for the colour difference.
>
> I like them both and plan to use them along with Photorag -
> particularly for sales. DMax seems excellent to my eye, but
> the only measuring equipment I've got.last
>
> I've seen somewhere in this group a reference that they (or at
> the Alpha) don't use optical brighteners, although you'd have tothe
> check that for yourself. So presumably no flaking - although I've
> never experienced that with Photorag. As for permanence - who
> knows. But as 100% cotton rag they should be (?) up there with
> best.latter
>
> Steve Gledhill
> http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ptang1uk"
> <michael@m...> wrote:
> > Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare
> > image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the
> > with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negativeresources as
> > permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site.
>
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2004-09-14 by Steve Kale
You should consider trying Lascaux spray instead of Lyson Print Guard for your matt paper prints. The Lyson spray knocks dmax quite a lot.
> From: ptang1uk <michael@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:37:07 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega? > > Many thanks for the quick responses. Both Omega and Alpha sound good > options. The only reason I'm looking for a possible Photorag > replacement is the pretty awful longevity result on www.livick.com > I work in mono and colour and spray my prints with Lyson Print guard > before framing behind ordinary glass. Unfortunately the only reports > on Permajet papers that I have seen are from Perma themselves, using > their own inks... > Michael Woolley >
2004-09-14 by borden_jonathan
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote: > You should consider trying Lascaux spray instead of Lyson Print Guard for > your matt paper prints. The Lyson spray knocks dmax quite a lot. > > I am interested in using Lascaux. I wonder how it might work with glossy prints and Ultrachrome and/or MIS inks e.g. Eboni? 1) As a coating would it reduce metamerism? 2) Is so, might it increase dMax for the matte black inks when used with glossy materials? Jonathan
2004-09-14 by Paul Roark
>Steve Kale wrote: >> You should consider trying Lascaux spray instead of >>Lyson Print Guard for your matt paper prints. >>The Lyson spray knocks dmax quite a lot. Jonathan wrote: >I am interested in using Lascaux. I wonder how it might work with >glossy prints and Ultrachrome and/or MIS inks e.g. Eboni? On glossy prints Lascaux is less effective (at least on a per-coating basis) at reducing bronzing than is the Lyson Print Guard. In my fade tests, the UltraChromes got a significantly increased life from PremierArt Print Shield, which I suspect is the same as the Lyson Product. (PremierArt denies this.) The Lascaux did not improve UltraChrome lightfastness as much (again, on a per-coat basis). >1) As a coating would it reduce metamerism? I doubt any coating can do this. >2) Is so, might it increase dMax for the matte black inks when used >with glossy materials? I don't recommend matte black with glossy papers, but some people have been using them with sprays for some time. With Photo K the sprays do increase the dmax on glossy paper. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2004-09-15 by johnglodge
Lascaux does supply an Acrylic transparent UV varnish (matt or gloss) that is water-thinnable. This is not the same as the solvent based Fixativ. Can't say I've actually seen it though I find the Fixativ fine to work with. ...John --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > >Steve Kale wrote: > >> You should consider trying Lascaux spray instead of > >>Lyson Print Guard for your matt paper prints. > >>The Lyson spray knocks dmax quite a lot. > > Jonathan wrote: > > >I am interested in using Lascaux. I wonder how it might work with > >glossy prints and Ultrachrome and/or MIS inks e.g. Eboni? > > On glossy prints Lascaux is less effective (at least on a per- coating basis) > at reducing bronzing than is the Lyson Print Guard. > > In my fade tests, the UltraChromes got a significantly increased life from > PremierArt Print Shield, which I suspect is the same as the Lyson Product. > (PremierArt denies this.) The Lascaux did not improve UltraChrome > lightfastness as much (again, on a per-coat basis). > > >1) As a coating would it reduce metamerism? > > I doubt any coating can do this. > > >2) Is so, might it increase dMax for the matte black inks when used > >with glossy materials? > > I don't recommend matte black with glossy papers, but some people have been > using them with sprays for some time. With Photo K the sprays do increase
> the dmax on glossy paper. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com
2004-09-20 by Chris Hargens
Are these papers available yet in the US? I did a web search and could only locate UK vendors. Chris Hargens --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Alpha is OBA free. Delta has some OBAs. Omega, I thought, has some, but > under a black light (not the best one in the world) there seems to be very > little if any in it. > > Omega has a dmax of 1.67. Each batch of paper seems to vary a bit, but all > three of the new PermaJet papers are consistently between PhotoRag (1.71) > and EEM (1.64-5), which is excellent. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > _________________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: virtuallygrey [mailto:stephengledhill@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:44 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega? > > I've recently started using both - limited to A4 size so far - with > my 2100 and UT7 inks. They're both 310 gsm, they're both slightly > smoother than Photorag. The Omega is very slightly whiter than > Photorag whilst the Alpha is a very pale cream. To me they're > identical but for the colour difference. > > I like them both and plan to use them along with Photorag - > particularly for sales. DMax seems excellent to my eye, but that's > the only measuring equipment I've got. > > I've seen somewhere in this group a reference that they (or at last > the Alpha) don't use optical brighteners, although you'd have to > check that for yourself. So presumably no flaking - although I've > never experienced that with Photorag. As for permanence - who > knows. But as 100% cotton rag they should be (?) up there with the > best. > > Steve Gledhill > http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ptang1uk" > <michael@m...> wrote: > > Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare > > image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the latter > > with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negative > > permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
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2004-09-22 by Paul Roark
To obtain PermaJet papers -- Alpha (OBA free), Omega (some brighteners), & Delta (more brighteners, but still less than most) -- or to find out where they can be purchased, call Jobo at 800-664-0344. Usually Mark is the person to contact. If he's out (like now) ask for Ricke. Paul www.PaulRoark.com _______________________________
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Hargens [mailto:chargens@...] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:52 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega? Are these papers available yet in the US? I did a web search and could only locate UK vendors. Chris Hargens --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Alpha is OBA free. Delta has some OBAs. Omega, I thought, has some, but > under a black light (not the best one in the world) there seems to be very > little if any in it. > > Omega has a dmax of 1.67. Each batch of paper seems to vary a bit, but all > three of the new PermaJet papers are consistently between PhotoRag (1.71) > and EEM (1.64-5), which is excellent. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > _________________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: virtuallygrey [mailto:stephengledhill@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:44 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Permajet Alpha, Omega? > > I've recently started using both - limited to A4 size so far - with > my 2100 and UT7 inks. They're both 310 gsm, they're both slightly > smoother than Photorag. The Omega is very slightly whiter than > Photorag whilst the Alpha is a very pale cream. To me they're > identical but for the colour difference. > > I like them both and plan to use them along with Photorag - > particularly for sales. DMax seems excellent to my eye, but that's > the only measuring equipment I've got. > > I've seen somewhere in this group a reference that they (or at last > the Alpha) don't use optical brighteners, although you'd have to > check that for yourself. So presumably no flaking - although I've > never experienced that with Photorag. As for permanence - who > knows. But as 100% cotton rag they should be (?) up there with the > best. > > Steve Gledhill > http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ptang1uk" > <michael@m...> wrote: > > Has anyone here used either of these papers? How do they compare > > image wise with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? I have been using the latter > > with Epson 2100/Ultrachrome but am worried about some negative > > permanence reports, esp on the Livick.com site. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. 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