Digital BW, The Print

Mark--

All of your points are well taken!  However, if I learn in advance that a 
company is in serious danger of going "belly up," wouldn't I be foolish to 
buy anything from the company?

Plus, I have a fiscal repsonsibility to myself.  Evidently you are better 
"healed" than I am.  I cannot afford to simply run out and reinvest in 
systems that peter out after a few months for whatever the reason.

Jay


>From: Mark Savoia <mark@...>
>Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezography Limited & Chapter 11 by Cone 
>Editions?
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:58:09 -0400
>
>Jay,
>I can see your point about that concern, but do you really have the
>time to do that much homework on whether a company is secure? I would
>think that if you value your time you can do the math and see that it's
>worth more then the investment you will be making into a Piezography
>system. Through the years of being in business I have seen not only
>software companies but equipment suppliers "belly up" with no warning.
>I just get up off the ground and move on to the next. It has just
>become part of doing business in this economy. Perhaps Jon can not
>comment do to legal "gag order"?
>Mark
>
>On Sep 27, 2004, at 7:44 AM, Jay Gladwell wrote:
>
> > Mark--
> >
> > I for one would like to know before I invest in a Piezography system
> > that it
> > will be around after my purchase!  How would feel if only months after
> > you
> > bought a high-end system that the company was no longer in business?
> >
> > Just my two cents.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >> From: Mark Savoia <mark@...>
> >> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezography Limited & Chapter 11 by Cone
> >> Editions?
> >> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:08:59 -0400
> >>
> >>
> >> Why should this be of anybody's business but Jons? Does this mean we
> >> all have to disclose details of our business on this e-group?
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> On Sep 26, 2004, at 9:54 PM, Editor P.O.V. Image Service wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, I'd really like to know what's going on here...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Jon,
> >>>
> >>>  Since you NEVER return my calls or email queries until I post my
> >>>  questions publicly, I have no choice but to once again do so.
> >>>
> >>>  Is Piezography Limited a new company or is it part of Cone Editions?
> >>>
> >>>  If it is a separate concern, why do I not find it listed in the
> >>> Vermont
> >>>  Secretary of State's database of Vermont registered Corporations?
> >>> (Where
> >>>  Cone Editions Press IS found.)
> >>>
> >>>  Is it perhaps not a Vermont Corporation? If so, in what state,
> >>>  territory, or nation IS it registered?
> >>>
> >>>  If it is a separate concern, have you moved or sold all your non-R9
> >>>  related piezo assets to Piezography Limited?
> >>>
> >>>  The way this is going, I'm about to simply file for copies of all
> >>> the
> >>>  papers in the R9 suit and your petition, as well as tracking through
> >>>  corporate databases and attending the 23 November hearing in person,
> >>>  just to understand the simplest reality of how all this fits
> >>> together.
> >>>
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