Digital BW, The Print

Scott

Thank you for the report.

Nelson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] 
> Sent: sexta-feira, 1 de outubro de 2004 18:13
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
> 
> 
> 
> Nelson,
> 
> I have to say I'm dissapointed with the results. The process 
> isn't what I
> had originally expected. They want you to send a color file. 
> Not a grayscale
> in RGB but the original image before it was converted to rgb. 
> If you shoot
> B&W then you obviously can't do that. My image was converted 
> from a color
> scan so I sent that to them along with the Monochrome image 
> for reference.
> 
> The print is of excellent quality but looks nothing like the 
> reference B&W
> that I sent them. It looks like the Red channel from the 
> original image.
> Lighter and more contrasty that the reference image by far. 
> The other thing
> that is very noticeable for me is posterization. The beautiful tonal
> transitions that I worked so hard to preserve have been 
> destroyed. It's hard
> to quantify, so I hope I'm not being unfair to San Miguel 
> Labs, but the
> bottom line is that the print is unacceptable by my 
> standards. My initial
> standards dictate that the print should be of at least the same tonal
> quality as an inkjet. No posterization and at least the same tonal
> gradation. I do a fair amount of Lightjet also and the tonal 
> quality is
> beautiful. I'm looking for that same thing in my silver prints.
> 
> Having said that I think there is potential but you would 
> have to pay for
> their portfolio grade printing and probably go through a few print
> iterations before they gave you what you wanted. Again, it's the image
> quality that is not acceptable. The Print quality is excellent.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Scott
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> Could you tell us something about the results you got?
> 
> How do you like the wuality of the print?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Nelson
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...]
> > Sent: quarta-feira, 1 de setembro de 2004 16:40
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
> >
> >
> > I just ordered a print from one of my files from San Miguel
> > Lab in New Mexico printed in a DeVere. I will post the
> > verdict after it arrives.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:08 PM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
> >
> >
> > I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger.  It was based on
> > a DeVere.  Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver
> > paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair
> >
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