Digital Enlarger
2004-09-01 by yaakovsinclair
I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on a DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair
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Digital Enlarger
Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-09-01 by Mark Savoia
Not too many around, they cost $34,000. Mark On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:08 PM, yaakovsinclair wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > > > � > > > � > > > � > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Digital Enlarger
2004-09-01 by siklosg
This lab makes its living working with the DeVere digital enlarger: http://www.bestlab.com/ It has a bunch of info, pictures, etc. Ps: Btw, K'siva V'Chasima Tova Yaakov Asher! --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@a...> wrote:
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> I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on a > DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver paper in > this way? > thanks again > YaakovAsher Sinclair
Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-09-01 by Scott Hendershot
I just ordered a print from one of my files from San Miguel Lab in New Mexico printed in a DeVere. I will post the verdict after it arrives. Scott
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----- Original Message ----- From: "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on a DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-09-30 by Nelson Ricciardi
Scott Could you tell us something about the results you got? How do you like the wuality of the print? Cheers Nelson
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] > Sent: quarta-feira, 1 de setembro de 2004 16:40 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > I just ordered a print from one of my files from San Miguel > Lab in New Mexico printed in a DeVere. I will post the > verdict after it arrives. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:08 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on > a DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver > paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. 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Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-09-30 by mxgo95747
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@r...> wrote: > Scott > > Could you tell us something about the results you got? > > How do you like the wuality of the print? > > Cheers > > Nelson Last week, I also ordered an 11 by 14 enlargement from a PS worked file from the lab with the DeVere enlarger. And at the same time I ordered (from a different lab that does only B&W work) an 11 by 14 enlargement of the same negative in order to evaluate the results of both processes. While both photos are to be on fiber based glossy paper, warm tone, unfortunately one paper is Kodak and the other is Ilford. I also gave both labs ink jet prints of the subject matter and the same instructions of what I wanted the enlargements to look like. I will post my evalulation when I get both enlargements. Martin
Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-10-01 by Scott Hendershot
Nelson, I have to say I'm dissapointed with the results. The process isn't what I had originally expected. They want you to send a color file. Not a grayscale in RGB but the original image before it was converted to rgb. If you shoot B&W then you obviously can't do that. My image was converted from a color scan so I sent that to them along with the Monochrome image for reference. The print is of excellent quality but looks nothing like the reference B&W that I sent them. It looks like the Red channel from the original image. Lighter and more contrasty that the reference image by far. The other thing that is very noticeable for me is posterization. The beautiful tonal transitions that I worked so hard to preserve have been destroyed. It's hard to quantify, so I hope I'm not being unfair to San Miguel Labs, but the bottom line is that the print is unacceptable by my standards. My initial standards dictate that the print should be of at least the same tonal quality as an inkjet. No posterization and at least the same tonal gradation. I do a fair amount of Lightjet also and the tonal quality is beautiful. I'm looking for that same thing in my silver prints. Having said that I think there is potential but you would have to pay for their portfolio grade printing and probably go through a few print iterations before they gave you what you wanted. Again, it's the image quality that is not acceptable. The Print quality is excellent. Hope that helps. Scott
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:52 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger Scott Could you tell us something about the results you got? How do you like the wuality of the print? Cheers Nelson > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] > Sent: quarta-feira, 1 de setembro de 2004 16:40 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > I just ordered a print from one of my files from San Miguel > Lab in New Mexico printed in a DeVere. I will post the > verdict after it arrives. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:08 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on > a DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver > paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. 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RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-10-01 by don.swanson
Thanks for the heads up on San Miguel Labs. Maybe they will respond with info on how to order B&W prints from them. Don -----Original Message----- From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:13 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger Nelson, I have to say I'm dissapointed with the results. The process isn't what I had originally expected. They want you to send a color file. Not a grayscale in RGB but the original image before it was converted to rgb. If you shoot B&W then you obviously can't do that. My image was converted from a color scan so I sent that to them along with the Monochrome image for reference. The print is of excellent quality but looks nothing like the reference B&W that I sent them. It looks like the Red channel from the original image. Lighter and more contrasty that the reference image by far. The other thing that is very noticeable for me is posterization. The beautiful tonal transitions that I worked so hard to preserve have been destroyed. It's hard to quantify, so I hope I'm not being unfair to San Miguel Labs, but the bottom line is that the print is unacceptable by my standards. My initial standards dictate that the print should be of at least the same tonal quality as an inkjet. No posterization and at least the same tonal gradation. I do a fair amount of Lightjet also and the tonal quality is beautiful. I'm looking for that same thing in my silver prints. Having said that I think there is potential but you would have to pay for their portfolio grade printing and probably go through a few print iterations before they gave you what you wanted. Again, it's the image quality that is not acceptable. The Print quality is excellent. Hope that helps. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:52 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger Scott Could you tell us something about the results you got? How do you like the wuality of the print? Cheers Nelson
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] > Sent: quarta-feira, 1 de setembro de 2004 16:40 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > I just ordered a print from one of my files from San Miguel > Lab in New Mexico printed in a DeVere. I will post the > verdict after it arrives. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:08 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on > a DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver > paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair >
RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger
2004-10-06 by Nelson Ricciardi
Scott Thank you for the report. Nelson
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] > Sent: sexta-feira, 1 de outubro de 2004 18:13 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > > Nelson, > > I have to say I'm dissapointed with the results. The process > isn't what I > had originally expected. They want you to send a color file. > Not a grayscale > in RGB but the original image before it was converted to rgb. > If you shoot > B&W then you obviously can't do that. My image was converted > from a color > scan so I sent that to them along with the Monochrome image > for reference. > > The print is of excellent quality but looks nothing like the > reference B&W > that I sent them. It looks like the Red channel from the > original image. > Lighter and more contrasty that the reference image by far. > The other thing > that is very noticeable for me is posterization. The beautiful tonal > transitions that I worked so hard to preserve have been > destroyed. It's hard > to quantify, so I hope I'm not being unfair to San Miguel > Labs, but the > bottom line is that the print is unacceptable by my > standards. My initial > standards dictate that the print should be of at least the same tonal > quality as an inkjet. No posterization and at least the same tonal > gradation. I do a fair amount of Lightjet also and the tonal > quality is > beautiful. I'm looking for that same thing in my silver prints. > > Having said that I think there is potential but you would > have to pay for > their portfolio grade printing and probably go through a few print > iterations before they gave you what you wanted. Again, it's the image > quality that is not acceptable. The Print quality is excellent. > > Hope that helps. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:52 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > > Scott > > Could you tell us something about the results you got? > > How do you like the wuality of the print? > > Cheers > > Nelson > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Hendershot [mailto:nospam@...] > > Sent: quarta-feira, 1 de setembro de 2004 16:40 > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > > > > I just ordered a print from one of my files from San Miguel > > Lab in New Mexico printed in a DeVere. I will post the > > verdict after it arrives. > > > > Scott > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "yaakovsinclair" <sinclair@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:08 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Enlarger > > > > > > I recently saw an ad for a digital enlarger. It was based on > > a DeVere. Has anyone any experience of printing onto silver > > paper in this way? thanks again YaakovAsher Sinclair > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > > preferences by visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > > messages to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > > removed from the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > > digital B&W printing. 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