Digital BW, The Print

Not sure my girlfriend would agree.
All is well, other than still being in the studio at 8pm on Friday
night, which get's back to the girlfriend thing...
Hope so for you too.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle"
<jdoyle1713@c...> wrote:
> Tyler
> 
> Your The Man..:)
> 
> Hope alll is well out west!!
> Jim
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Tyler Boley [mailto:tyler@t...]
>   Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:56 PM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] How reliable/ precise is your b&w print
> workflow?
> 
> 
> 
>   It'll work with any workflow.
>   Tyler
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho"
>   <erudolph@p...> wrote:
>   >
>   > Will Carl's softproofing method work only with QTR or can it work
>   with other workflows?
>   >
>   > Ed
>   >
>   >
>   > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
>   <stevekale@b...>
>   > wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Carl Schofield developed a means of soft-proofing using an Eye-One
>   which I
>   > > think is very good
>   > >
>   > > > From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@v...>
>   > > > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>   > > > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:04:45 -0700
>   > > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>   > > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] How reliable/ precise is your b&w
>   print workflow?
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > Bernhard,
>   > > >
>   > > > I share your frustration with respect to variables.  The papers,
>   inks, and
>   > > > printers all contribute to the issue.  One thing I think might
>   be helping me
>   > > > is to leave the printer on over night.  The warming up of the
>   printer during
>   > > > the day seems to be, in part, related to how long it has been
>   on.  (Room
>   > > > temperature, humidity, and sometimes I think phase of the moon
>   also probably
>   > > > contribute to the problem.)
>   > > >
>   > > > The shadow compression you describe makes me think the 2100
>   might be like
>   > > > the 1290, which prints darker than the US version (1280).
>   > > >
>   > > > The bottom line for me is that I rely on hard copy proof prints
>   before
>   > > > making critical prints.  This, of course, is no different than
>   the darkroom
>   > > > was -- unfortunately.
>   > > >
>   > > > Paul
>   > > > www.PaulRoark.com
>   > > >
>   > > > _________________
>   > > >
>   > > > -----Original Message-----
>   > > > From: Bernie Ess [mailto:albatros-@...]
>   > > > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:18 AM
>   > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > Subject: [Digital BW] How reliable/ precise is your b&w print
>   workflow?
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > When I started b&w printing on an Epson, I thought one of the
>   > > > advantages over the darkroom was that once its well set up,
there
>   > > > would be no trying and experimenting and that I would have 100%
>   > > > predictable results.
>   > > >
>   > > > Now, a few hundreds or probably thousands of prints later I find
>   that
>   > > > this is
>   > > > not exactly the case. On my 2100/UT7 workflow I find the
following
>   > > > issues:
>   > > >
>   > > > 1. My output from the file + Roark curves is roughly, but never
>   > > > exactly what I see on my monitor. When I look at the
grayscale on my
>   > > > flat panel the 100% to 0%
>   > > > steps are quite well separated, but in the uncorrected print the
>   deep
>   > > > shadows (around 95%
>   > > > black) are not well resolved, 95% comes out totally
>   > > > black: So I had to make a curve that boosts the deep shadows.
>   > > >
>   > > > 2. I often find myself having to do several prints of the same
>   photo,
>   > > > because the general "look" of the print is not like on the
>   screen, see
>   > > > also my other message about the foliage and trees.
>   > > >
>   > > > 3. The most mysterious thing is that my output seems to vary
>   from time
>   > > > to time. Sometimes I find the prints too dark compared to the
>   screen,
>   > > > sometimes they are slightly too light.
>   > > >
>   > > > Finally its not that different from the darkroom, I would say
>   > > > gradually more predictable (maybe even by a large margin, but
>   that is
>   > > > probably because my traditional darkroom skills are so poor).
>   > > >
>   > > > So, do you have a 100% WYSIWYG workflow?
>   > > >
>   > > > Thanks for your input,
>   > > >
>   > > > Bernhard
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
> 
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