Digital BW, The Print

One more quick comment, I was also able to test ColorVision¹s new
Spyder2Pro colorimeter and software, and was very impressed. I've used
and tested a few different hardware calibration apps/devices, and this
seems very good.
Also, I just wanted to add that it's nice to you posting on this list,
David. Hope I haven't chased you off.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Brooks"
<fotografx@m...> wrote:
> 
> Bernie,
> 
> May I suggest that ³color management² and monitor calibration and
profiling
> could at least reduce the discrepancy between what you see on-screen and
> what you obtain in a print even though you are working with
grayscale and
> not color.  I have jumped in here in part because I was just delivered
> ColorVision¹s new Spyder2Pro colorimeter and software, and the resulting
> calibration and profiling I am now obtaining is amazingly
well-matched and
> the screen gray is at a neutral balance I¹ve not seen before. And
may I also
> suggest that with an LCD flat panel, its grater brightness range
compared to
> a CRT, makes it that much more difficult to obtain screen matching
in prints
> as there is an inherent gamma discrepancy. CRT¹s are much closer in
> brightness range and apparent gamma effect to a print density range.
> 
> Regards, David B. Brooks
> Shutterbug Magazine
> E-mail: fotografx@m...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/15/04 4:17 AM, "Bernie Ess" <albatros-@...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > When I started b&w printing on an Epson, I thought one of the
> > advantages over the darkroom was that once its well set up, there
> > would be no trying and experimenting and that I would have 100%
> > predictable results.
> > 
> > Now, a few hundreds or probably thousands of prints later I find that
> > this is
> > not exactly the case. On my 2100/UT7 workflow I find the following
> > issues:
> > 
> > 1. My output from the file + Roark curves is roughly, but never
> > exactly what I see on my monitor. When I look at the grayscale on my
> > flat panel the 100% to 0%
> > steps are quite well separated, but in the uncorrected print the deep
> > shadows (around 95%
> > black) are not well resolved, 95% comes out totally
> > black: So I had to make a curve that boosts the deep shadows.
> > 
> > 2. I often find myself having to do several prints of the same photo,
> > because the general "look" of the print is not like on the screen, see
> > also my other message about the foliage and trees.
> > 
> > 3. The most mysterious thing is that my output seems to vary from time
> > to time. Sometimes I find the prints too dark compared to the screen,
> > sometimes they are slightly too light.
> > 
> > Finally its not that different from the darkroom, I would say
> > gradually more predictable (maybe even by a large margin, but that is
> > probably because my traditional darkroom skills are so poor).
> > 
> > So, do you have a 100% WYSIWYG workflow?
> > 
> > Thanks for your input,
> > 
> > Bernhard
> > 
> > 
> > 
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