Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

RE: [Digital BW] refill-friendly carts?

2004-11-16 by Jake Hellbach

Paul,
Did MIS change the design on their carts?
I bought mine about a month ago and they are not clear as in the link below. They do have a larger hole
where in the instructions for the c82refill they mention filling it there and then plug the hole. I've
asked this question from MIS but haven't gotten a answer. If I can fill my carts this same way maybe this
is my problem with the foam buildup.

Jake


Fine Art Photography
www.jakehellbachphoto.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]

  Richard,

  >Could you describe what makes certain cartridges "refill-friendly?"
  >Is this related to "poppets" you mentioned in another post?
  >(And what are they?)

  Take a look at
  http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/c82refill.html and
  http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/c84refill.html.

  (Where the C86 picture says to drill a hole, they are now pre-drilled, and
  there are little rubber "corks" that plug the hole until re-fill time.)

  To fill or re-fill these carts, all one does is pull the cork, squirt 13 cc
  of ink into the sponge-free reservoir, stick the cork back in, and re-set
  the chip.  This is really easy and cheap.  So far it is working extremely
  well with the C86 I'm using.  I don't know how long the carts will last, but
  the system is essentially a CFS without the tubes.  The carts might last a
  year or more.

  (The latest version of Re-setter SK168 -- that turns from red to green -- is
  the recommended resetter.  It has a plastic guide that needs slight
  modification at least for the C86 carts -- 1 mm cardboard on the base to
  raise the cart, 5 mm sawed off the side of the guide to allow for a bulge
  the new carts have.  I've sent my recommendations to MIS.  With those
  modifications, it has successfully reset 100% of the time with the C86.)

  The poppet valve is similar to what Epson has had for some time, but the
  third party carts have lacked the better outlet valve.  It's a spring valve
  as opposed to the older simple rubber gasket.  It allows me to, for example,
  switch between Eboni matte K and PK at will, with perfect nozzle checks
  right off the bat.  Interchanging carts now becomes practical, it appears.
  I just tape the outlet of the cart that has been removed.

  So, these 2 advances, which affect the C86 carts (C84 included) and 2200
  carts (C82 included), make life for these desktop units much easier and
  cheaper.  I never liked the old re-filling, and I do not recommend bottom
  filling because it puts any junk in the ink on the wrong side of the
  sponge/filter.  With these new carts the built-in filters will always be
  able to do their job, which might allow our desktop units to live longer.

  Paul
  www.PaulRoark.com




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.