Paul, Did MIS change the design on their carts? I bought mine about a month ago and they are not clear as in the link below. They do have a larger hole where in the instructions for the c82refill they mention filling it there and then plug the hole. I've asked this question from MIS but haven't gotten a answer. If I can fill my carts this same way maybe this is my problem with the foam buildup. Jake Fine Art Photography www.jakehellbachphoto.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Richard, >Could you describe what makes certain cartridges "refill-friendly?" >Is this related to "poppets" you mentioned in another post? >(And what are they?) Take a look at http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/c82refill.html and http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/c84refill.html. (Where the C86 picture says to drill a hole, they are now pre-drilled, and there are little rubber "corks" that plug the hole until re-fill time.) To fill or re-fill these carts, all one does is pull the cork, squirt 13 cc of ink into the sponge-free reservoir, stick the cork back in, and re-set the chip. This is really easy and cheap. So far it is working extremely well with the C86 I'm using. I don't know how long the carts will last, but the system is essentially a CFS without the tubes. The carts might last a year or more. (The latest version of Re-setter SK168 -- that turns from red to green -- is the recommended resetter. It has a plastic guide that needs slight modification at least for the C86 carts -- 1 mm cardboard on the base to raise the cart, 5 mm sawed off the side of the guide to allow for a bulge the new carts have. I've sent my recommendations to MIS. With those modifications, it has successfully reset 100% of the time with the C86.) The poppet valve is similar to what Epson has had for some time, but the third party carts have lacked the better outlet valve. It's a spring valve as opposed to the older simple rubber gasket. It allows me to, for example, switch between Eboni matte K and PK at will, with perfect nozzle checks right off the bat. Interchanging carts now becomes practical, it appears. I just tape the outlet of the cart that has been removed. So, these 2 advances, which affect the C86 carts (C84 included) and 2200 carts (C82 included), make life for these desktop units much easier and cheaper. I never liked the old re-filling, and I do not recommend bottom filling because it puts any junk in the ink on the wrong side of the sponge/filter. With these new carts the built-in filters will always be able to do their job, which might allow our desktop units to live longer. Paul www.PaulRoark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] refill-friendly carts?
2004-11-16 by Jake Hellbach
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