Digital BW, The Print

You will be just as happier, (I'm MUCH happier) with the Hextones and a
1280 printer and paul's curves. Get the CIS system from nomorecarts for sure.

Jerry





Alan Zinn wrote:
> 
> I guess I too was lucky - absolutely turn-key operation from the
> piezo system.  BUT... My 1160 printer suddenly croaked with ruined
> heads. Am I to drop another $50 for the Piezo 6.0 upgrade, and $390
> for the bloody hextone (the quad printers are out-of-date) inks to
> get back to square one? Or will I be just as happy with a MIS hex
> system @$76 for the inks?
> AZ
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sturos@m... wrote:
> > I am delighted that Jon Cone & Bill Bergh have so many loyal
> > supporters out there...and I certainly wish them no ill will,
> though I
> > DID find their system maddeningly frustrating and expensive,
> primarily
> > due to frequent clogs.
> >
> > It may be that, as Bill Bergh once told me, that this is endemic to
> > using a fairly inexpensive printer (in my case an 1160) for a
> fairly
> > sophisticated process in a manner in which it was never intended.
> >
> > Perhaps.
> >
> > My only comment/observation/complaint is this: I am a photographer,
> > not a printmaker. My primary objective is to make more and better
> > images in and through the camera, whether the recording medium is
> film
> > or a CCD is increasingly a secondary concern.
> >
> > PhotoShop is an amazingly powerful and precise tool, and after
> > printing black and white photos conventionally for more than 25
> years
> > it's a pleasure to be able to work on and manipulate an image in PS
> > more effectively and in a more pleasant environment than I ever
> could
> > in a darkroom doing things manually.
> > And no more spotting!
> >
> > So, yeah, I expected a learning curve with Piezography. I expected
> to
> > spend whatever requisite time was needed to further or additonally
> > calibrate my monitor, tweak settings for different sorts of images,
> > for instance defining PS actions to get levels to where they should
> be
> > in photos that needed more or less contrast, or at least get close;
> > but basically to do whatever it took to get this system
> standardized
> > and working.
> >
> > But first and foremost, I expected the system to work, on a very
> nuts
> > and bolts level, right out of the box, just like an Epson, just
> like a
> > Pictograph....
> >
> > I did not expect spend countless hours flushing the machine and
> > wasting valuable ink.
> > I did not expect to find that some of the very papers that are in
> > Cones own "Sample" pack needed to be sprayed to hold the ink to
> paper.
> >
> > Someone replied earlier that when these problems/frustrations
> started
> > to happen, that was when he (and I) started to check out some of
> these
> > forums, and read about other peoples experiences/solutions to these
> > problems.
> > I was amazed to find all kinds of ingenous tricks to faciliate
> > unclogging the heads;
> > the windex/Fantastik method, blowing out bubbles with syringes,
> etc .
> > etc.
> >
> > Call me cranky; I guess I'm just not interested in that; it seems
> > unnecessarily fussy and time consuming, and frankly, on an ongoing
> > basis, I'd rather be working on the images than working on the
> > machinery used to produce them.
> >
> > Maybe Lyson SG will work; maybe it will prove to be an inferior
> > product to the Piezography system and Cone inks. Maybe I'll find a
> way
> > to tweak and standardize the Epson drivers to allow me to print
> black
> > and white images to my satisfaction (they do a fantastic job in
> color,
> > and the newer generation printers are drawing raves). Regrettably,
> > even Epson readily admits that their printers are not designed for
> > black and white printing.
> >
> > And who knows, maybe in the end Piezography will work out all the
> > kinks and be the wonder it claims...For the guy on the list who has
> > printed 100's (1000's???)of prints without a clog or banding...well
> > brother, I wish that I'd had your luck.
> > All I'm saying is that for now it just doesn't do
> 
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