Yes what you say is correct. As set up at the moment, a 255 pixel (or normalised pixel value of 1) goes to paper white 0.043 and 0 pixel to 1.65. But note that the gamma of such a range is completely different from the workspace gamma. In the workspace gamma we go from density values of 0.043 to 1.65 in pixel values of 243 to 45. This is my point. As a result, we work in a tonal range of 0-255 with a gamma of 2.2 yet print with a device which has a tonal range of 45-243 and a gamma of lord knows what....No wonder we don't get a WYSIWYG output. Better to deliver the printer a tonal range it can handle (43-293) and have it calibrated to the same gamma as our workspace. No? > From: Tyler Boley <tyler@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:20:01 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Tonal range and linearization > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale > <stevekale@b...> wrote: > > snip... > >> For EEM which I will say has a density range of 0.043 to 1.65, this > range is >> approximately, using the 0-255 scale, pixels from 18 to 243, assuming a >> gamma of 2.2. Anything outside this range can't be reproduced... > > > Steve, perhaps you correct yourself later in the post (sorry, out of > time) but this is incorrect. > The entire path from numbers exiting Photoshop to ink hitting paper > does not clip as you suggest. > > 255 winds up mapping to your 0.043 paper, and 0 to your 1.65 ink > black. All in between is "compressed" accordingly. If you have > clipping such as you imply, there are other problems. The nature of > the compression is determined by your entire workflow and device > characteristics. > > Tyler > www.custom-digital.com > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership > without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the > membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See ³Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines² in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE ³OWNER² AND > ³MODERATORS² OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, > USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ³OWNER² AND ³MODERATORS² OF > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR > TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Tonal range and linearization
2004-12-02 by Steve Kale
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