But soft proofing, as you say Daniel, does not change the file pixel values and hence you can't save what you see. There is a way to do what you want - at least with respect to tonal range and relativity. To include hue - the warmth or cool hue information - I think would be very difficult. At a minimum you would need to present the image in colour. The problem with this is you need to reflect in a curve the complete mapping of pixel values to print values that occurs when you print. If the print space were the same gamma as your workspace - even though not of the same range - this would be easy to do. If it is not then it is quite hard. Your best approximation and it is quite an exercise is to print a detailed step wedge (the more steps the better), measure the printed densities of the steps, convert these to pixel values within the same scale as your PS curves, and create a curve "dialling in" these input/output points. As you do this the image on screen will get closer and closer to the printed image. Because this is a curve rather than proof, it alters the file's pixel values and hence the result can be saved. A little tedious and no depiction of hue but it gets you a lot closer to portraying the actual print. > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 09:15:52 -0800 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] online and print versions? > > >> From: daniel [mailto:dnj@...] >> >> is there some way to have photoshop save a jpg of the image so >> that viewed online it will >> have the same appearance as a softproofed version? > > You really have no control over how an image appears online, because > practically everyone will be viewing it in a non-color-managed program like > Internet Explorer. About the best you can do is to convert to sRGB, since > that's intended to be a good approximation of a "typical" display. > > To mimic the gamut limitations of the printer, I suppose you could convert > to the print space, and then convert to sRGB. Converting to the print space > and then to your monitor space is what soft proofing does. > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@... > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership > without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the > membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See ³Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines² in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE ³OWNER² AND > ³MODERATORS² OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, > USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ³OWNER² AND ³MODERATORS² OF > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR > TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] online and print versions?
2004-12-05 by Steve Kale
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