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Re: roark vs qtr - newbie q.

2004-12-13 by frankg_photo

And can anyone comment on the Epson Gray Balancer - see review here

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/gray-balancer.shtml

(perhaps I should post this as a separate thread since it's not a 
direct answer/comment to the origuinal post)
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> ....What does QTR allow you to do that the Roark
> curves do not? It may help to know that I am looking at getting an
> epson 2200 to do color work also. Will either system allow me to do
> both color and b and w on a 2200? ....
> 
> I have used both systems. Pauls system I used on a 1160 with MIS UT 
> inks and worked without a hitch. However it requires you to convert 
> your printer to B&W  by replacing the coloured inks with a set of 
> black/grey inks. Its a straight forward system and you print using 
> the Epson driver. However if you want to print colour and BW from 
the 
> same printer, then a RIP is the only answer. I recently bought a 
> 2100/2200 and using OEM inks print colour through the Epson driver 
> and BW using QTR. Roys QTR is a great product at a bargin price. 
> Installing QTR on a Mac is a doddle, on PC maybe more difficult but 
> certainly worth trying. There are two other RIPs that I know of, 
> ImagePrint and IJC/OPM. ImagePrint RIP is expensive but does print 
> colour and B&W, and comes with many profiles. Its also does a lot 
> more than just print and is a standalone product. IJC/OPM is like 
QTR 
> a BW only RIP, but again is a standalone product and so should be 
> easier to setup on your machine if you have problems with QTR. I 
have 
> no experience of either. Check their web sites for more info.
> 
> Hope this helps a little.
> 
> Peter
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jarrrush" 
> <johnr@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > I am wondering is someone can compare QTR to Paul Roark's 
> methodology 
> > of making B and W prints from both an ease of use and technical 
> > standpoint (print quality as you define it). I tried installing 
QTR 
> > and QTR GUI in the next to last version on my WIN XP machine - 
> Epson 
> > 1270 with MIS inks and it did not seem to work for me (long 
story).
> > 
> > I just started using the Roark curves and it is working. I have 
not 
> > spent much time using this system, but it seems like a large 
number 
> > of posters to this list are using QTR and are enthusiastic about 
> this 
> > system (QTR). I am wondering whether I should try getting the QTR 
> to 
> > work on my machine. What does QTR allow you to do that the Roark 
> > curves do not? It may help to know that I am looking at getting 
an 
> > epson 2200 to do color work also. Will either system allow me to 
do 
> > both color and b and w on a 2200? I do understand from reading 
> > through the list that both are excellent systems but from a 
> > newcomer's perspective I am having a hard time figuring out the 
> > quality difference between the two systems. From an ease of use 
> > perspective, Paul's methodology seems easier to set up inititally.

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