Scott, >Are the MIS inks waterproof (resistant, whatever) on a paper such as >Epson Premium Lustre, as are the Epson UC inks? >I can take an R800 print on EpPrmLstr, hold it under water, rub my >fingers over the paper surface and the inks don't move. I don't know if the MIS inks are as waterproof as the R800, but I just took a test strip of MIS UT ink on Premium Semigloss and put it under the faucet. There was no apparent running on the ink. I rubbed the inked parts with a finger and no smearing appeared. However, when I rubbed it with a paper towel to dry it there was a slight amount of smearing. So, it may be that it's water proof, but not abrasion proof when wet. Paul www.PaulRoark.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > HP Premium Plus Photo Glossy, Satin (formerly Matte) and High Gloss. > > > > Those will give the longevity that we all desire, especially when > > nput behind glass. > > > > This caught my eye, and I couldn't resist re-posting part of the fade test I > did in March. > > After 600 hours in my tester, the 50% patch of the Epson Premium Semigloss > printed with neutral MIS UT inks then sprayed with PremierArt Print Shield > and HP paper printed with their B&W inkset had the following starting and > ending spectrophotometer readings: > > Prem. SG start: C = .58, M = .57, Y = .58, Visual Density = .58 > > After 600 Hr: C = .58, M = .57, Y = .58, Visual Density = .58 > > > HP start: C = .80, M = .79, Y = .76, Visual Density = .79 > > After 600 Hr: C = .78, M = .76, Y = .72, Visual Density = .77 > > So, while the HP B&W dyes may be very good for dyes, and maybe good enough > for most uses, I don't think they are equal to the good B&W pigments. How > all this translates into actual fading in display I don't know. However, if > one wants the best B&W digital print resistance to fading, I think the > predominantly carbon pigment systems are still the way to go. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] Which printer for B&W
2004-12-19 by Paul Roark
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