Paul I agree on the pigments (and am not an HP fan anyway), but was the HP paper also sprayed with Print Shield? Other tests have shown that is a factor also. Seth =-----Original Message----- =From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] = =After 600 hours in my tester, the 50% patch of the Epson =Premium Semigloss =printed with neutral MIS UT inks then sprayed with PremierArt =Print Shield =and HP paper printed with their B&W inkset had the following = = =Prem. SG start: C = .58, M = .57, Y = .58, Visual Density = .58 = =After 600 Hr: C = .58, M = .57, Y = .58, Visual Density = .58 = = =HP start: C = .80, M = .79, Y = .76, Visual Density = .79 = =After 600 Hr: C = .78, M = .76, Y = .72, Visual Density = .77 = =So, while the HP B&W dyes may be very good for dyes, and maybe =good enough =for most uses, I don't think they are equal to the good B&W =pigments. How =all this translates into actual fading in display I don't =know. However, if =one wants the best B&W digital print resistance to fading, I think the =predominantly carbon pigment systems are still the way to go. = =Paul =www.PaulRoark.com = = = = =------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor =--------------------~--> =Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. =Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! =http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM =--------------------------------------------------------------- =-----~-> = =Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other =resources as they are often being updated. = =http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint = =If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or =you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership =preferences by visiting this same page. = =Please follow these basic guidelines: =- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier =messages to keep them short. =- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks =or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be =removed from the membership without notice. =- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of =digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic =posts may be removed from the membership. =- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group =rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and =decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, =Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: =http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ = =BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, =THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT =THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO =GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, =INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, =INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, =GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ="OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP =HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), =RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE =DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO =OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS =OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT =YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL =BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. = =Yahoo! Groups Links = = = = = = = = =
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RE: [Digital BW] Which printer for B&W
2004-12-19 by Seth Rossman
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