That sounds good. Seems like that's MUCH better than the HP products. I'm excited and can't wait for the carts to arrive. Thanks again Paul, Scott -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Scott, > > >Are the MIS inks waterproof (resistant, whatever) on a paper such as > >Epson Premium Lustre, as are the Epson UC inks? > > >I can take an R800 print on EpPrmLstr, hold it under water, rub my > >fingers over the paper surface and the inks don't move. > > I don't know if the MIS inks are as waterproof as the R800, but I just took > a test strip of MIS UT ink on Premium Semigloss and put it under the faucet. > There was no apparent running on the ink. I rubbed the inked parts with a > finger and no smearing appeared. However, when I rubbed it with a paper > towel to dry it there was a slight amount of smearing. So, it may be that > it's water proof, but not abrasion proof when wet. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > HP Premium Plus Photo Glossy, Satin (formerly Matte) and High > Gloss. > > > > > > Those will give the longevity that we all desire, especially when > > > nput behind glass. > > > > > > > This caught my eye, and I couldn't resist re-posting part of the > fade test I > > did in March. > > > > After 600 hours in my tester, the 50% patch of the Epson Premium > Semigloss > > printed with neutral MIS UT inks then sprayed with PremierArt Print > Shield > > and HP paper printed with their B&W inkset had the following > starting and > > ending spectrophotometer readings: > > > > Prem. SG start: C = .58, M = .57, Y = .58, Visual Density = .58 > > > > After 600 Hr: C = .58, M = .57, Y = .58, Visual Density = .58 > > > > > > HP start: C = .80, M = .79, Y = .76, Visual Density = .79 > > > > After 600 Hr: C = .78, M = .76, Y = .72, Visual Density = .77 > > > > So, while the HP B&W dyes may be very good for dyes, and maybe good > enough > > for most uses, I don't think they are equal to the good B&W > pigments. How > > all this translates into actual fading in display I don't know. > However, if > > one wants the best B&W digital print resistance to fading, I think > the > > predominantly carbon pigment systems are still the way to go. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Which printer for B&W
2004-12-19 by scott_now_coming
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