Hi All, I think we're all coming at this in a similar manner, and I didin't mean to imply that there was really any "simple" approach by using a "clean machine" -- just that some of the anomolies of the operating systems, how various programs treat your computer's integrity when they install and the inherent complexity of the technology itself -- all these things confront us, confound us and compound our challenges of setting up each new system... As "The Wogster" pointed out, some programs enter your "house of computing" like a polite guest -- they're well mannered, behave nicely and respect your environment. Others are just the opposite -- they throw their "stuff" (dll's and other bits and pieces) all over the place, and change your "house" to suit their stay. Pretty rude indeed, and sometimes it's not even so obvious until we install another nice program like QTR that needs to share the same resources and we find out they left muddy footprints all over the carpet ;>) Anyway, that was my basic point for suggesting the cleaner the machine, the easier it is to sort out some of these problems. Lots of people that depend on these wonderful computing machines for their livelihood as imagemakers wouldn't think of putting Microsoft Office on the same box that did all their post-processing and printing. Not to pick on ole' Bill Gates, or anything -- but it's a good example because since MS also builds Windows for us I think they feel entitled to muck around with it quite freely. But again, just an example -- some do it because they can, and some because they don't know any better ;>) In the "darkroom", I got to be pretty friendly with Decktol and the few other chemicals that I used because they made all the difference between getting the results I wanted or an evening of frustration under the safelight. I think the same approach needs to be taken here: chemistry seemed a lot simpler than computers, but a bit of pollution with either one and you're in a world of hurt ;>) Having worked my career in the Silicon Valley, I've felt pretty comfortable with the transition to the tools of our new "light-room" environment (Roy and I must have brushed shoulders a few times back then, but never really met -- just knew a lot of the same folks ;>)) So it's from that perspective that I offered the suggestion that we make it as easy on ourselves as we can, because there are lots of complexities involved. Just like with darkroom chemistry, sometimes you get the best results with light-room printing equipment when you can keep it simple and control the exact (or not) "mixture" of what's on your machine as much as possible. Makes it easier for other people to help us through problems, and once everything is working smoothly we can relax a bit more. Still, I'm not writing this post on my main editing machine. I've grown up with computers since the days of CPM and TRS-80's, but the only thing on my editing room machine is what I need for editing. Yep, it's networked for ease of running print servers (wireless and not), moving stuff onto my raid-based "SAN" for safekeeping and burning, etc. But I keep it really clean otherwise. (What's that old joke? Clean mind, Clean body. Take your pick.)? Oh, well... Bottom line is there are some elegantly simple ways of entering into this incredibly rich world of new tools we have with our sanity relatively intact -- like the post right after my earlier one from the person who just discoverd the joys of the C86 and Paul's "EZ" UT inkset, augmented by Paul's informative response. Those wonderful tools can get you printing georgous "quad-tones" on a pretty polluted machine, just as long as the machine can still see the printer and send out a file. Of course, Paul has gone way beyond that with the vast array of inks, curves and techniques he's developed for us -- but the basic approach (with it's own set of nuances), can be less "computer dependent" than a RIP based system. (Note the operative term there is "can be..." since printer tempermant still plays a key role in any system ;>)) In the end (and the beginning) I was only trying to support some folks in what sounded like mounting frustration with their Holiday printing projects -- but do believe that what I offer is sound advice about simplicity learned from that wonderful institution called "the school of hard knocks" ;>) So, I'll bow out here and just say Happy Holidays to all -- but not without borrowing and botching up a great term from a real pioneer in Piezography, Jon Cone: "may your highlights be dotless" and your computers free of frustrating bugs! Enjoy! This is a wonderful forum and a wealth of knowledge to all of us as we move forward in this great new artform together... Cheers! Richard --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Hung" <mhkhung@y...> wrote: > > I don't have any problem setting up QTR on my machine, but it's my > machine and I (think at least) know networking and windows sharing > very well.. > > It's not as simple as it sounds.. With Windows XP, Microsoft changed a > hell lot of default security and sharing parameters in Windows. And > there may be just a check-box difference for systems that works and > doesn't. The basic problem is the default file sharing. Prior to > Windows XP, all you need to share a printer, folder, etc is either > right-click on the folder and hit sharing; or issue the command "net > share sharename=..." in command prompt. In Windows XP, there are a few > more things to click before that will work (and I couldn't even > remember what they are now), and QTR relies on that. > > Michael > > > 1. As an old hand at working through some of these same kinds of > > issues, I'd like to pass on a really simple but fundamental tip that > > I learned the very hard way (meaning, I no longer have any hair left > > to pull out ;>)). That is: when all else fails, start with a > > clean, "plain vanilla" system.
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Re: QTR - GUI Problems...
2004-12-20 by richard_h95050
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