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Re: [Digital BW] Re: More on Glop overcoating

2004-12-22 by Steve Kale

OK have fun.  

I have "MIS UC with GLOP" QTR curves good to go and will get my GLOP next
week.  I have also made an "overcoat" curve for colour work (but that is not
for this list) and a curve to flush the GLOP jet.

Carl has also been kind enough to share with me his UT2/FSN-GLOP curves.  I
have ordered a similar ink set and so will be shifting my B&W workflow to a
dedicated setup (which can be easily swapped back for colour).  Carl's QTR
curves are "K-less" though and so he is running GLOP in the K position.  I
will likely also make some using MIS PK and running the GLOP in the sepia
toner slot for neutral and warm (I will of course have to go K-less for
sepia).  I will post my results when I get the chance.

(As for what GLOP was designed, for yes I am aware of that.  As soon as the
R800 was announced many of us anticipated using QTR to apply it.  MIS has
finally made a replica of the Epson Gloss Optimiser intended for use with
their MIS replica ultrachromes and the improved refillable carts make toying
with it a practicality.  Pity it doesn't meet their standards but at least
they will likely be working hard on a replacement.  For now we get to play
around with the stuff that didn't pass muster.)



> From: Steven Karafyllakis <steve@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:33:32 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: More on Glop overcoating
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> <stevekale@b...> wrote:
>> Well if you have refillable cartridges and a QTR curve to flush
> the affected
>> slot at will you can simply pop the GLOP in when needed ie when
> you print
>> B&W.  OK you will consume some extra glop and ink in the swapped
> slot but it
>> gets you your GLOP workflow in large format today.  Are there not
> refillable
>> cartridges for the 7600 - perhaps this is what I am missing?
> Seems to me
>> you are testing GLOP with different ink sets than you intend it to
>> ultimately work with.
> 
> No, I'm testing the glop with the MIS UC inks, with the possible
> exception of the LK which may wind up being Epson if it bronzes less
> and coats better. That is what the glop was designed for, and co-
> incidentally most of the UT B&W inks are of the same family, so
> it'll work for those if it works for the color UC inks.There are
> (and I have them) refillable MIS carts, and chip resetters; what you
> are perhaps not familiar with is the length of the inklines in a 7x
> medium format printer. Each line and damper holds as much ink as an
> entire 2200 cart, so coming up with a cost effective way to flush
> and change one ink at a time is worth the effort. Daniel Staver has
> offered to help with this, he's on the PC platform, so I'm covered
> on that point, thanks.

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