I get tired of hearing about > the "zone system." It was mostly developed for a time before there was even > graded printing paper. As such, the negative had to be fit to the few > printing paper contrasts that were available. Paul, I know your comments about Zone System are well-intended, but they are not fully correct and, more importantly, miss what I think is its point. You teach good methods that are temporarily appropriate for current digital technology, but that will become obsolete within a couple of years, as the technology gets more intuitive...unlike the heart of the Zone System. MOST of the Zone System's development occurred DESPITE plenty of readily available paper grades (6 from Agfa) and infinite variability from the excellent Dupont Varigam. Those who were influenced directly by Ansel and Minor, and Minor's many students, were not "limited" by all those paper grades, but instead determined to use only one or two of them so as to avoid the crudeness of product orientation and last minute "saveing" of dubious negatives by juggling paper grades. Most of the fundamentals of the Zone System were worked out not by Ansel (though he gets popular credit), but in partnership with Minor White, during their joint instruction at San Francisco Art Institute one Summer. Ansel's initial version of the system predated that Summer (and yes, did have to do with limited paper grades), but it wasn't the fully conceived, teachable system previously, and it continued to be refined for two more decades for the purposes of roll film. Many of "us" developed our skills FOR a favorite grade or two, moving zones around to our hearts content on an internalized (uncharted) and disciplined (like jazz) Zone System basis...that was the most basic goal of the Zone System, as taught by Minor. Ansel was a classical pianist, not a jazzer. Connecting the Zone System too firmly to charts and quantification (which were part, but not the heart) anchors it too firmly on Ansel's analytic side of the brain, removes it from Minor's artistic side. Minor was hip, meditative, a Zen Buddhist and Gurdjieff disciple, while Ansel thought like an engineer, was commercial (a good thing)... there was a difference at that level. I believe both would be excited about digital photography (as Ansel was about Polaroid, his commercial sponsor), but I suspect Minor might have stayed with film longer. disclaimer: A half-dozen of Minor's students were my friends in San Francisco in the Sixties, whereas Ansel was just my customer.
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Re: Zone system (was Annie Lennox)
2005-01-03 by Djon
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