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Re: [Digital BW] ANOTHER C86/EZ question, about refilling.

2005-01-04 by scott_now_coming

"One warm or neutral bottle can be 
> used to fill the three "color" positions."
 
O.K, I understand now.

"Any 
> downside to that?"

I think the high capacity black cart is the way to go.
I haven't heard anything negative about them. That's the one I'm 
going to use.


Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "welchmatt" 
<welchmatt@y...> wrote:
> 
> From what I understand, not quite.  One warm or neutral bottle can 
be 
> used to fill the three "color" positions.  You'll of course need a 
> photo or eboni black bottle to fill the black position.
> 
> On another note, I ordered the high-capacity black refill cart.  
Any 
> downside to that?
> 
> Matt
> 
> --- In 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
> <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > So, one only needs to have 4 chipped carts and one bottle of ink 
to 
> > fill all four "positions?
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > > ... wanted to confirm that the CMY cartridges all do use the 
> > > >exact same ink
> > > 
> > > The EZ gray inks are all the same density.  The chips for the 
> carts 
> > are
> > > unique to each "color" spot.  For example, I have just one pint 
> > bottle each
> > > of EZ-Warm and EZ-Neutral.  However, I have a couple spare 
chips 
> > for each
> > > spot.  Although the re-setter (modified as shown on my web 
page, 
> > accessed
> > > from http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/index.htm ) has worked 
> perfectly 
> > on the
> > > C86 chips, on other printers I've found the chips sometimes 
don't 
> > reset
> > > correctly.
> > > 
> > > > ... could you provide a bit more info on how you "prime" the 
> > cartridge ...
> > > 
> > > I first fill the new, empty cart through the hole at the top of 
> the
> > > reservoir.  I wait a while for the sponge to get soaked, and 
add 
> > enough ink
> > > to almost fill the reservoir.  After I've "corked" the hole 
> > securely (but
> > > without pushing the stopper down so far I can't remove it), I 
> turn 
> > the cart
> > > almost completely upside down, so that the outlet (still 
sealed) 
> is
> > > accessible and pointing up.  I tilt the cart just enough so 
that 
> > the ink in
> > > the reservoir is still covering the connecting passage between 
> the 
> > reservoir
> > > and sponge-filled section.  The connection is very close to the 
> > outlet.  I
> > > want ink there so that when I pull ink out of the outlet it 
does 
> > not pull
> > > air through that passage.
> > > 
> > > I then use a syringe with a shortened bottom fill adapter on 
it, 
> > and I
> > > puncture the seal over the cart outlet.  I use a regular bottom 
> > fill adapter
> > > with the snout shortened to 7 mm.  (MIS also sells a modified 
> > bottom fill
> > > adapter that it has put a small tube on, supposedly for these 
> > poppet carts.
> > > I'm not sure you can puncture the seal with these, however.)
> > > 
> > > Once the seal is punctured, I push the bottom fill adapter into 
> the 
> > outlet,
> > > with the cart in the almost upside-down position, and pull a 
bit 
> of 
> > ink out.
> > > The hope is to pull the air bell out that is usually right at 
the 
> > outlet and
> > > can require a lot of cleaning cycles to remove.  So, when I 
first 
> > start to
> > > pull on the syringe, I get air.  Once the ink starts, I'm done, 
> and
> > > hopefully the cart will start with a perfect nozzle check right 
> > after
> > > loading into the printer.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com

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