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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland=Galerie Premium? (Paul)

2005-01-05 by bill staples

I picked up a package yesterday while shopping at Costco and I am stunned.  It provides, hands down, the best color and black and white photos on glossy paper that I've been able to produce on My Epson 2200 and Epson 4000.  
 
As much as I prefer matte papers, my customers prefer glossy for portrait type photos.  I've been a bit frustrated, and quite frankly, embarrased with the results I've had to sell thus far using a variety of papers.  I've been tried all of the following:
 
Epson Premium Luster
Epson Premium SemiGloss
Ilford Galerie Smooth Perl
Ilford Galerie Smooth Gloss
Pictorico Gallery Glossy
 
And the Kirkland paper is does better than all, in my opinion.  
 
Using QTR, "Premium Glossy Photo Paper" media source, Photo Black Ink, 1440 super, better speed, ordered dither, UC-EPhotoPaper-neutral curve at 100%, ink limit and gamma adjust at 0, I get the best looking, neutral black and white prints of the bunch.  The blacks are deep and rich, and the tones very pleasing.
 
Using the Epson drivers and the Epson 4000 "Premium SemiGloss" color profile I get very good color match to my profiled monitor (so good I wonder if I will even bother investing in a custom profile).  The same print side by side an Epson Premium Luster and the only thing my customer will notice is the difference in finish (which is personal preference and likely a toss-up) and the almost complete lack of bronzing on the Kirkland paper.  I wish I could say the same about Epson Prem. Luster.
 
Last, compare the cost:
 
Epson Premium Luster packet: 50 sheets 8.5x11 paper:  $35.00 == $0.70 / sheet
Kirkland Photo Paper packet: 125 sheets 8.5x11 paper: $18.99 == $0.15 / sheet
 
There are two things I wish about this paper:
 
1) That it was archival.  It says "professional" on the box, but I doubt that means it qualifies as archival, so I assume it isn't.  Acidity?  Lightfast?
 
2) That is was available in larger sizes / or on roll.
 
Bill


awahlster <awahlster@...> wrote:




Scott if it is made by Ilford it is heavier stock then any of the
Ilford papers. On the Costco web site it lists the thickness as #
10 mils and the weight as 260g/m2


While Ilford Classic Gallery glossy is 9 mils and 240g/m2

I'm going to check this paper out the price is just to good to pass up
even if I only end up using it for junk.

If it is a decent paper I could be quite happy making prints for this
cost.

Mark W.



10--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> 
> If Kirkland is made by Ilford, do you think this may be the paper:
> 
> 
> http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/prod_html/galerie/CS/Home.html
> 
> Ilford has a contract division that can package paper to your 
> specific size.
> 
> If it is Ilford making the Kirkland, I wonder if it would be possile 
> to have that same surface coating put on a 100% cotton base?
> 
> Scott





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