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Re: Epson 2200/2100 - OEM with RIP or MIS?

2005-01-06 by bwbonkers

Hi John

I think you will like the 2100. Before I bought the 2100 I too used a 
1160. I tried BO printing and MIS UT inks. Generally I was quite 
happy with the 1160, but it did suffer from clogs. However the main 
reason I choose to buy the 2100 was that I wanted to print colour and 
B&W from the same machine. The 2100 with OEM inks produces great 
colour prints and using either Roy's QTR or Bowhaus IJC/OPM, produces 
equally good metamerism free B&Ws. I think the only issue to be aware 
of is bronzing when using pigment inks on glossy paper. The bronzing 
is a bit like the issue of dots with BO printing, you either except 
it, or print on matte papers only. Using the RIPs is not difficult 
and both software products come with curves/profiles for the 2100/oem 
inks on various papers. The great thing about the RIPs is that you 
have total control over the inks. Eg You can change the tone of a 
print, sepia - warm - neutral - cool. 

I have had the 2100 for about six months now and todate have only 
done one cleaning cycle. I use the printer on average a couple of 
times a week. For me the constant clogs of the 1160 are now history.

Overrall I think its a great combination at a reasonable price.

Peter

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "johnrbeeching" 
<J.R.Beeching@b...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I have had very frustrating experiences with an Epson 1160 using 
MIS 
> inks printing either Black Only (thanks Clayton for your 
encouraging 
> articles) or UT quadtones (thanks Paul for your curves).  The heads 
> clog and take ages and waste vast quantities of ink to clean, and 
> even then I often get micro-banding.
> 
> So, in desperation I have ordered an Epson 2100 (= 2200 on this 
side 
> of the pond) which sounds a more robust machine.  I have also had 
> some useful advice to use the OEM inks and the Harrington RIP for 
my 
> black and white prints.  This should work out cheaper and 
apparently 
> there is no metamerism.  However, I still have residual doubts as 
to 
> whether this is the best path to follow: there is a whole new 
system 
> to learn and I liked the BO prints - when they worked.
> 
> Any advice from those who have already trodden this path?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John

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